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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Still reading the manual on when to start the garden.... Seems each type of 
seed requires different start dates for this zone.
 
The neighbor down the road still has green stuff (what I don't know yet), 
it's under plastic tunnels.
 
What would you consider a "mild" winter?
 
I read somewhere not to stake tomatos in the desert so the leaves can help 
shade the flowers.  And probably would have to start them indoors to beat the 
heat.


--- On Sun, 12/14/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Seed shortages
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 3:17 PM

>The wind has been blowing real hard here for a couple of days now. That is 
>a problem for plants here, blows the moisture right out of them. I'm 
>stunned that my little onions and garlic are still coming up as there have 
>been a number of nights now with >freezes and frost.

When do you start a garden in your area? Does it get too hot for a summer 
garden? I know that Bob had problems with it being too hot for tomatoes to 
set fruit. There are a lot of greens that like mild winters, like it seems 
you have...you could probably grow collards, kale, and many of the Chinese 
greens all winter. Maybe lettuce, if your winters are mild enough.

Lynn Wigglesworth
Tioga Co. PA 

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Lisa writes:

> I have a friend who has poultry for the first time and wants to eat
> their own meat but doesn't want to butcher their hens themselves. She
> proposes taking their birds to a farm up the road who will do it if
> they 'assist', so we may begin that way.

This is how I got started with butchering chickens. I helped a couple in
town who had facilities to get familiar with the operation. Then I raised 25
as a "pilot lot" and took them to their place and butchered them. Then I got
the tools I needed and did them in my backyard. After a few years of this, I
splurged and built an addition to the shed. Now I have a clean area with
adequate water and power and away from the critters and yellowjackets. (You
probably won't need to go to such lengths, but I butcher twice a week for 32
weeks.)

Karen Black
Norton Creek Farm
Blodgett, OR