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  • From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Seed shortages
  • Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:03:19 -0800 (PST)

No that doesn't sound familiar, however, someone posted a link yesterday that
had a link to a link to.... an easy desert way of dehydrating.   Then there
was another one from a native indian site also posted, but I haven't finished
reading that one yet.

--- On Sun, 12/14/08, Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com> wrote:

From: Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Seed shortages
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 8:30 PM

Leslie -

Lisa just mentioned several ways...were you on the list already (just a
while back) when there was a discussion on dehydrators? It got quite
interesting,
including how to make them yourself, and using old abandoned automobiles and
such.

Sandy
Mid-Mojave





In a message dated 12/14/2008 2:44:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
lisakvperry AT gmail.com writes:

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:

If I don't manage to kill off most of the crops this year, I might have to
> become a vegetarian.. LOL.
>
> I do intend to can up a fair amount of the tomatoes.


Leslie, you'll find that in your garden you'll have successes and
failures
and may not predict ahead of time which will be what. When something does
spectacularly well, take advantage and put it up (can, freeze, dehydrate,
save seeds) as best you can. Since you live in the desert, you can probably
dehydrate food well in the summer. An example of an unexpected change from
year to year is that we had tons of fruit this year, but last year we
didn't
have any due to the freeze on the East Coast. You never know what next
year's garden will be like. Just keep plugging along. I'm a puppy on
the Big
Dog path of gardening, but even I continue to make progress.

Lisa
sw VA
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One of the neighbors uses plastic kiddie pools, so I have set up a couple of
those and have my onion seed coming up in them as well as garlic.  That might
not work long term, but another experiment....
 
The local commercial farms have trenches between each row, and flood the
trenches.  It helps encourage the roots to reach deep.  The perc rate in the
soil doesn't seem either too fast or too slow. 
 
Hopefully the organic gardener down the road will be home when I pass by
there tomorrow afternoon and show me his set up.  He's still got all kinds of
green stuff growing.

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Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 9:40 PM

I'm still catching up with the digests (I'm up to Friday so far), but
wanted
to touch on a couple points in this thread.

Steve Solomon, who wrote "Gardening West of the Cascades" and started
Territorial Seeds (not coincidently, west of the Cascades) has a book out
called "Gardening When It Counts: Growing Food in Hard Times"
(http://www.amazon.com/Gardening-When-Counts-Growing-Mother/dp/086571553X/re
f=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1229308109&sr=8-2) which I think
is worth
reading. He has illustrations of how vegetables' roots extend underground
to
demonstrate why he recommends that most plants should be spaced farther
apart than is customary, and even more if you are relying on groundwater or
intermittant rain during growth. What he talks about, he has done.

Raised beds have one disadvantage in a desert; they need more water than a
flat or sunken bed. This is no problem here in Oregon, where my clayey soil
pretty much demands well-drained beds, and it's not much of a problem where
rainfall is regular. As I recall, the Hopi grew their plants in basins to
catch any water to get the best out of their gardens.

Karen Black
Norton Creek Farm
Blodgett, OR






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Well, now - my last question was a serious one, and I thank you for a reply
in kind. I have a particular fondness for goats.

After 'saving' it, though, I started to chuckle, comparing the possum's
instinct to that of all of us who have turned belly-up, glassy-eyed and
slack-jawed, hoping that the economic situation will have gone away by the
time we
wake up?

I am just as - or more - interested in your reply regarding the intricacies
of the natural world as I am with the state of the global (and local)
economies.

The natural world will continue - with us or without us. Human foibles will
continue to be the on ongoing joke of the universe.

Sandy
Mid-Mojave


In a message dated 12/14/2008 6:49:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
Clansgian AT wmconnect.com writes:



> >James - like the fainting goats?

Apparently. One young possum the Aussie brought in this summer we decided
to
spare and we put it on a stump to see what would happen. It lay there
glassy
eyed and slack jawed for fifteen minutes, then got up and stretched and
yawned several times, looked around confused, then took its bearing and ran
off.
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