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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

I don't really know buddhist history, I think the character Sun Tzu existed 
about the same time as that of Buddha, both in China.  Have you ever read 
"The Art of War"?  Patton, and Rommel both did.......

Someehere on the internet, you can find a news video of several thousand 
Buddhists monks 'warring' with each other.  Hacking each other with machetes, 
using sticks, and rocks, and knives and other weapons.  I don't know how to 
find it, but I have seen it more than once.

Besides, Buddhists have never been a major power in modern times (though , as 
I said they still will fight), if they were a power in Ancient times, it 
would have been in China, where the history of War is very long.

Most major religions claim to teach peace.  We see what that means with 
Muslims today, what it has meant for Christians and Jews in the past.  The 
Hindi have nuclear weapons over in India.  The Amish don't fight, but the 
people from whom they came sure as hell did................

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--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think we are talking about 2 different things.  You are talking about 
> "giving away power"...
 
> The fact that there are people, cultures and religions (I don't ever recall 
> the Buddhists going to war) that DON'T, and have no desire to, engage in 
> aggression against others demostrates that it is not universally part of 
> our biology. 

> Lynn Wigglesworth
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