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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to identifiable non-cash smartcardsfortransporta...
  • Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:36:26 -0800 (PST)

Everything you said is correct. My point was that all vets would have
federal credntials, which is true. How it would affect their participation
in this program was not known to me, but you make it pretty clear. Thanks
......bobford


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--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net> wrote:

> From: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to identifiable non-cash
> smartcardsfortransporta...
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 11:12 PM
> Bob, a veterianarian, your local MD, your dentist, etc. are
> all *licensed*
> by the state you live in. They *register* with the DEA
> inorder to prescribe
> Schedule III Narcotic drugs (although some can be
> prescribed without
> registering, such as codeine). In order to
> "register" with the DEA they
> must already hold a license to practice in a state.
>
> There are, however, vets that have federal contracts, which
> they refer to as
> federally licensed, and those must follow the new NAIS
> rules. Most ag
> colleges, folks who do inspections for the big labs
> (scrapie, psuedo rabies,
> rabies, etc.), etc..
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob ford"
> <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
>
>
> > Lynda, you know more about vets trhan me, but a DEA
> license comes from the federal gov't. If your vet can
> prescribe, he has federal credentials....bobford
> >
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SE PA going to
> identifiable non-cash smartcardsfortransporta...
> >> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com,
> homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 11:54 AM
> >> Not quite, Bob. Vets who are enrolled in federal
> programs
> >> have to enroll you. There are still independent
> vets. Vet
> >> licenses are state issues, not federally. The
> bottomline
> >> with those vets that do it is $$. We have a
> couple of local
> >> vets that routinely thumb their noses at the feds
> and take
> >> no federal money.
> >>
> >> Lynda
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob
> ford"
> >> <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> > James, I never mind your pontificating as
> long as you
> >> don't call me stupid in the process <g>.
> And, I
> >> do occasionally learn. I see your overall point.
> Kind of
> >> like Bernard-Shaw - saying 'those who can ,
> do; and,
> >> those who can't , teach'. I still think
> the
> >> do'ers can be effective teacherrs. Even though
> you are
> >> largely preaching to the crowd on this list, you
> >> wouldn't be wasting your time if you
> didn't think
> >> someone was learning something.
> >> >
> >> > One thing about your point that no-one can
> know whats
> >> going on on your farm. That new NAIS memo to
> Veternarians
> >> is federal. If a vet comes on your property , he
> can , and
> >> is required, to enroll you in NAIS, your
> permission is not
> >> necessary.
> >> >
> >> > Once enrolled, you have basically given up
> your fourth
> >> ammendment rights. They can come on your property
> anytime
> >> under the pretense of needing to look at your
> animals. That
> >> NAIS memo is brand new; you should look into it; I
> think I
> >> klnow you well enough that you are probably
> friends with
> >> your vet, and can work around, still, privacy
> concerns can
> >> reach to farm.
> >> >
> >> > One last point. Regardless of where or how a
> person
> >> chooses to live, they shouldn't be required to
> transfer
> >> everything into hidden hard goods just to affect a
> >> realization of basic privacy ..........bobford
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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