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> >Genes, virus, bacteria?  More likely fried pies. The oils and refined 
> carbohydrates and the resultant poisons produced by high heat are known 
> to limit and change immune systems, even telomeres and genes.

I know, Jerry, you are refering to refined carbs and oils.  Two things about 
this.  First, no one eats fried pies as  a regular part of their diet, not if 
they have to prepare and fry them themselves.  It's a treat.  I often read 
the 
diet advice of how bad this to that meal in a restaurant is and how you can 
choose healthier fare.  What?  Like you eat in a sit down restaurant twenty 
times a week?   It's so rare that I get to eat like that, I'll eat anything I 
want.

As far as limiting carbs and oils (and again, I know you are referring to 
*refined* products, which we almost never use), anyone who thinks they can 
homestead on a subsistence farm on a diet without carbs and oils, I'd like to 
invite 
them here for a week to try to do so.  The elimination of oils and carbs and 
fried foods is for the milk-toast type, a two-fisted luddite homesteader 
could 
not suvive on such a diet.   </HTML>