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[Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>]

I haven't read all of this thread, but I have seen the word Suburban bounced 
around.  I just want people to realize that there is a Chevy Suburban and a 
GMC Suburban.  I wanted a GMC Suburban when I was shopping, but even 15 years 
ago, they were over 40g's, and I couldn't afford that.  
I know you want a diesel...no recommendations with that as I have never owned 
one, but I can say that my old GMC Sierra truck has been an awesome truck for 
me-very reliable and utilitarian.  I've hauled wood, boats, and goats<g> and 
driven it cross country,  but I wish we had gotten the larger engine and 
bigger tow package. So if I bought a new truck, I would go with a top of the 
line GMC. spending the dough on the tow and other muscle, and leaving fluff 
like leather seats and power windows out of the picture.  
GMC makes a great truck, whether you want the all out Suburban, the more 
modest Sierra , or the Jimmy like Lynda has....

Akka





--- On Sat, 8/16/08, Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net> wrote:
F
DH has a GMC Jimmy 4x4 which we usually use to pull the boat when we head 
out to the coast to fish or over to the lakes to fish.  It's got well over 
200,000 miles on it.  No problems.  It's a left over from his "boys
and 
their toys" days and spends most of its time parked.

However, the Suburban is a diesel 



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> >If every American agreed to this premise it would not happen.

Of course this is correct.  But pointing out the math and the comparison is
not a call for everyone to do anything.  The reality is that people aren't
going to do that.

As if we needed more evidence of same, when gas prices averaged near $4.20,
the inquires fielded by edmunds.com for small cars soared.  It took only two
weeks of falling gas prices (and then scarcely over a 30 cent drop) for the
trend to reverse and inquiries for SUV's an large pickups increased sharply.

The purpose of highlighting the comparisons such as is referred to above is
not to suggest a change in habit or custom, but rather to point out the scale
and scope of the problem.   How many times have you heard that Brazil has
licked the fuel crisis by distilling all that sugar cane into ethanol to the 
point
that they don't import oil?  First, Brazil didn't distill its way to fuel
independence, it drilled its way to it with the Tupi oil field and others in 
the
Santos Basin.  Ethanol is a part of it, but by itself could not have achieved
motor fuel independence.

But what is conveniently overlooked is that automobile ownership is about
1/20th per capita that it is in the US.  If we got rid of 19 out of every 20
vehicles in the US, we would be energy independent too.

Now, Gene, I'm not seriously suggesting that we DO get rid of 19 out of 20
vehicles.  Until the pickups and SUVs are off the road making it safe for my
horse cart and pack donkey, you ain't getting MY S10.  The reason for the
comparison is to point out that Brazil's solution won't work here.

Likewise I wasn't suggesting that everyone calculate how much hydrogen they
could get from their own wind generator and only drive that much.  I was
pointing out that even if you HAD the wind generator and hydrogen car, you've 
solved
nothing with other more fundamental changes.   </HTML>