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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Thank's....I'll read it tonight....bobford


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, paxamicus AT earthlink.net <paxamicus AT earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: paxamicus AT earthlink.net <paxamicus AT earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SCOTUS strikes gun ban
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 5:04 PM
> I found this:    
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/20/AR2008062002036.html
> 
> "WASHINGTON -- A civil liberties group filed a lawsuit
> Friday seeking  
> an injunction against the District of Columbia police
> department's  
> vehicle checkpoint program, calling the
> "military-style" initiative  
> unconstitutional and ineffective.
> 
> The class-action lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court
> in  
> Washington by the Partnership for Civil Justice on behalf
> of four D.C.  
> residents who were stopped by the checkpoints earlier this
> month in  
> the city's Trinidad neighborhood.
> 
> The checkpoints were in effect in Trinidad for six days
> beginning June  
> 7. The initiative requires officers to check drivers'
> ID and turn away  
> those who don't have a "legitimate purpose"
> in the area, such as a  
> doctor's appointment or church visit. Police have said
> the checkpoints  
> could be used in other areas that experience a surge in
> violence.
> 
> The lawsuit also asks the court to throw out data that
> police  
> collected on law-abiding citizens who were stopped at the
> checkpoints."
> 
> 
> 
> And this:        
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/16/AR2008061602695.html
> 
> DC police chief defends checkpoints before Council
>       
> 
> By BRIAN WESTLEY
> The Associated Press
> Monday, June 16, 2008; 10:18 PM
> 
> WASHINGTON -- The District of Columbia's police chief
> on Monday  
> defended vehicle checkpoints in a neighborhood struggling
> with  
> violence, saying the measure was a success and that no
> shootings  
> occurred while they were in place.
> 
> Police Chief Cathy Lanier, testifying before a D.C. Council
> committee,  
> also refused to refrain from using the controversial
> checkpoints  
> again, despite those who said the tactic had brought the
> city a rash  
> of bad publicity.
> 
> "We are trying to do the right things for the right
> reasons," Lanier  
> said.
> 
> Under the initiative in the Trinidad neighborhood for six
> days earlier  
> this month, officers checked drivers' ID and turned
> away those who  
> didn't live there or have a "legitimate
> purpose" for visiting, such as  
> a doctor's appointment or a church visit.
> ad_icon
> 
> The measure has been criticized by civil liberties groups
> as a  
> violation of citizens' constitutional rights.
> 
> Johnny Barnes, executive director of the D.C. branch of the
> American  
> Civil Liberties Union, has warned that police "are on
> a collision  
> course with the courts" if the checkpoints continue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:29 PM, bob ford wrote:
> 
> > You are correct, I think we had some of our messages
> mixed.  And I  
> > wasn't aware of what was happening in The
> District.  I'll have to  
> > read up on that.  But even before I educate myself on
> the facts of  
> > the issue ( which sound terrible, so far); I have to
> think that the  
> > the council members have declined to fire the chief
> for a reason.
> >
> > Some in that city want to separate from others in that
> city for  
> > reasons that heterfore even economic restrictions
> didn't bring to  
> > fruition. This segregation is desired by some element
> in the  
> > District.  And, The District is not exactly run by
> right wing bible  
> > thumpers who look like me.
> > If you have a link from the Wash. Post or The Wash.
> Times on this  
> > issue , please post.
> > ......sorry for the confusion....bobford
> 
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