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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Come-on now,  You've always seemed to be a worldly person; you've surely 
spent time visiting people in those communities in urban areas.  Do you 
really think the expense and unappealing aesthetics  of the gates, tall 
fences, and armed guards are there to isolate those people who "choose" to 
live there from other people who look and behave like them.  

Those impediments are there to separate them from the 'different', the 
'other'.  

In the case you describe or in gated communities, one type of citizen is 
being separated from another.  I'm not saying either way is right or wrong ( 
though I do have an opinion), I'm just acknowledging what I see.

I love it when I visit acquaintances in those gated communities and hear them 
parroting multi-cultural phraseology and talking about their progressive 
political leanings.  In reality, the main color in their lives generally 
happen when they are sitting in Starbucks , drinking a dark coffee; going to 
a professional sports game; or paying their gardeners.

I actually live a multi-cultural life.  The next door neighbor to the south 
of me is a single homosexual man with an ex-wife and grown children; the next 
house is is a male homosexual couple (they've been together for at least the 
fourteen years since they moved into the neighborhood), my next door neighbor 
to the north is a nice guy, but a he is a homophobe who won't speak to the 
others, though he did help the couple once with a tree problem, he just 
wouldn't act too friendly.   Across the street from him is a lesbian with a 
black male roommate.  The neighbor across from me is a former racist who 
married a woman with a ten year old black daughter.  My neighbor treats that 
little girl like a princess. The lady next to him is Jewish.  My wife is 
Catholic and I'm just weird.
  
Our neighborhood is largely white and Christian,but with the welcome 
inclusion of the 'other'; And we tend to only wall in our back yards.

If you have to have fences around any part of a densely populated urban
area, it is because the social engineering of the past couple of generations 
was wrong; not because of a single elected or appointed police chief or 
sheriff, etc....bobford


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, paxamicus AT earthlink.net <paxamicus AT earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: paxamicus AT earthlink.net <paxamicus AT earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SCOTUS strikes gun ban
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 9:47 AM
> Well, no, cause people choose to buy into those gated
> communities. I  
> think there's a big difference between choosing and
> having it enacted  
> on you.
> 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:28 AM, bob ford wrote:
> 
> > One man's  "ghetto in the Eastern  European
> tradition, complete with  
> > Border Guards" might be another man's
> 'gated community'. ....bford
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 6/26/08, paxamicus AT earthlink.net  
> > <paxamicus AT earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: paxamicus AT earthlink.net
> <paxamicus AT earthlink.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] SCOTUS strikes gun ban
> >> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:33 AM
> >> I think it's interesting, especially as the
> police chief
> >> has basically
> >> turned one part of town into a ghetto. I mean a
> ghetto in
> >> the Eastern
> >> European tradition, complete with Border Guards.
> Nothing
> >> like
> >> conflicting messages.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 26, 2008, at 10:23 AM, bob ford wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> For once, five justices looked at the words.
> >>>
> >>
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