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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

To further that, unschooling children learn at an early age that there are 
natural consequences.  There isn't someone running around and patting them 
on the head and saying "oh poor little Johnny" and then making excuses for 
x, y or z behaviors.  They are trained to expect someone to either do it for 
them or to make excuses for them.  Doesn't happen in an unschooling home!

And, if someone comes up and asks that type of moron question of one of 
ours, they will normally get the response a lady, who obviously didn't read 
youngest t-shirt, got when she asked youngest (age 7 or 8) "what grade are 
you in and why aren't you in school."  Rolled eyes at me as if to ask "do I 
have to answer that" and then said "we don't do school" and pointed at her 
t-shirt which had a picture of the old-fashioned one-room schoolhouse with 
the red circle around it and line through it and which read on the top "no 
more" and on the bottom "kiddie prisons."

Which, btw, the kidlets designed and screen printed themselves <g>

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> To the unschooler these gangs are the result of tightly constricting the 
> view
> of normality and opportuntiy to success in school.  And when by turn of
> nature or will of spirit some of the people will have nothing to do with 
> it, what's
> left but crime and gangs?
>
> Gangs are the epitome and distillation of schooling, not unschooling.
>
> Imagine for a moment that you removed the concept of "the Man". What would
> happen to the gangs?  If there's nothing to be against, their influence
> disappears.
>
> One of the characteristics of the unschooler's world is self-validation. 
> How
> many times have we come across some schooled to the soul idiot who asks 
> the
> children where they go to school, and when it is determined that that they 
> are
> homeschooled (unschooling is a concept beyond them), said idiot will say
> something like:
>
> "Oh, let me ask you then, if one car travels at 80 mph and another car
> travels at 55 mph the same distance but arrives 20 minutes later, who far 
> did they
> travel?"
>
> (The children stare at him.)
>
> "Ah, don't know, do you?"
>
> (To which I reply)
> "It's not that.  They think you are an idiot.  What kind of moron asks 
> such a
> thing uninvited?"
>
> A person who has not been indoctrianted from birth to constantly seek 
> outside
> approval and valiation is so foreign to the schooled that they can in no 
> wise
> deal with it.
>
> It's harder to undo that indoctrination once it's in place, but it does
> happen.
>
> Remove that indoctrination from those project and barrio children, and the
> need for gangs goes with it.   </HTML>