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  • From: "James Hepler" <hepstyle AT gmail.com>
  • To: "RTP-area local music and culture" <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight)
  • Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:37:52 -0400

I personally don't think that this is the major moral outrage that some
folks are claiming it to be. It's more likely a flukey lack of
communication. The band booking people probably didn't know that they
weren't supposed to book a band when the NBA finals are on, and the people
who run the bar probably didn't know that a band was booked during game 6.

I don't give a rats ass about the NBA. But I understand that a bar wanting
to make money is not as much greed as it is, idunno, making a living. It
should be well known by now that places like Dain's do not survive by
putting on rock shows. They want a piece of the rock pie for sure, but ask
anyone who runs a bar and they'll tell you that a marquee sporting event
will always bring more people than a local rock show.

Principles are great when you're not staring down a stack of bills. And I
defy anyone to tell me that they will turn down seeing a great rock show at
Dain's sometimes down the road because of that one time they canceled a show
for a basketball game.

As an afterthought, shit, one band could play first half commercians and
halftime, one band could play second half commercials, and one band could
play postgame. Commercial breaks tend to be song length, and there are
enough of them to play a set no problem.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Slater <saulecker AT gmail.com> wrote:

> Well for me, I knew it would have nothing to do with Catherine.
> She's not going to cancel the show and I know she booked it thinking
> it would happen. No stain on her character for this one.
>
> I also understand the perils of booking at a non-rock club, but even
> this goes a step beyond in my opinion. It's more of an integrity
> thing. If you book an event, whether it's a basketball game, rock
> show, or a clown orgy, you HONOR that obligation. You don't at the
> last minute call things off or alter the deal majorly. Starting a 3
> act show at 11:30 (or later with load in/setup) on a tuesday night is
> a pretty major alteration. Bottom line for me is that if you can't
> follow through with your planned event, or if you are so greedy that
> you are will to stick it to a band, then maybe you as an
> establishment shouldn't be booking events. Yes, Durham needs venues,
> but I'm not sure a place like this is the answer.
>
> Anyone got any seed money? I'll open a place and run it. I may have
> never done it before, but I'd try to bring some morals into the
> venture. Oh wait, I guess that would be an automatic failure. Maybe
> in the next lifetime.
>
>
> k.
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Anne Gomez wrote:
>
> > No, Catherine is not to blame and I was torn about posting anything
> > about
> > this because I didn't want to mess up her efforts to book bands.
> > But I had
> > to let y'all know, especially the people in bands. People can do
> > with the
> > information what they will.
> >
> > On 6/17/08, grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> But the burgs & fries are so tasty there! I'm torn!
> >>
> >> FWIW, rock at Dain's is a kind of nutty experiment spearheaded by
> >> bartender/Midtown Dickens member Catherine Edgerton . . . anybody who
> >> has seen or played a show there knows that the "stage" area is
> >> entirely
> >> absurd.
> >>
> >> It's a great thing, and it's my fave way to see live music, but I
> >> suspect that there's gonna be a perennial disconnect (of variable
> >> size)
> >> between the live-music folks and Dain & the rest of the staff.
> >>
> >> So feel free to go complain to Dain, but don't take it out on Cat, I
> >> doubt she's the big NBA fan of the bunch . . .
> >>
> >> Kevin Slater wrote:
> >>> seriously? like for real?
> >>>
> >>> Well, they just made my personal ban list.
> >>>
> >>> k.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 17, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Anne Gomez wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Fans of The Gates of Beauty, The Debacle (aka The Scott Waite
> >>>> Debacle), and Clawform (Colin Booy's metal-banjo project): If you
> >>>> were going to come see us play at Dain's Place tonight, you can
> >>>> make other plans. We will not be playing there tonight because a
> >>>> much more important event has displaced our show: A PROFESSIONAL
> >>>> BASKETBALL GAME ON TELEVISION!!!! So if you are a fan of the Lakers
> >>>> or whatever team they're playing tonight, by all means go to
> >>>> Dain's. If you like crazy, interesting music you'll have to sit at
> >>>> home and listen to your Albert Ayler records. Love,Anne "We
> >>>> Practiced Really Hard for This Show and Put Up a Buttload of
> >>>> Flyers" Gomez (The Gates of Beauty)
> >>>>
> >>>>
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