RTP-area local music and culture

[Reese Gibbs <rrgibbs53 AT yahoo.com>]

I think people airing their grievances is good and can be healthy for the 
community but I also think it's important to avoid rumor and speculation.  
How could anyone know a band was turned away for personal reasons?  When 
people go from what was experienced to what may have happened it begins to 
feel like a character assassination.  In the words of James Hepler: let's 
stick with what's legitimate.  Is that what James said?  If it isn't I would 
think he would say something like that.  Big ups, Hep.

Reese Gibbs McHenry


hannah gush <hannahgush AT gmail.com> wrote: I think Joel hit it right on the 
head: Troika *is* a beautiful thing and no
one thinks organizing these things is easy.  I am the girlfriend of a Durham
musician and a HUGE local music fan.  To some it may seem I have no right to
say anything but right up until last weekend people are still talking about
how disappointed they were with Troika.  I thought if people were still this
upset maybe there were some questions they wanted to ask the organizers, who
I know post here on occasion.

I know the issues I saw last year were mostly based around disorganization
(three different times the various venues didn't know there was a show
there, bands didn't know where and when they were playing).  Some of this
may be an issue with the band/venue but the multitude of those problems says
to me it was disorganization.

The other issue is when we pay to get a ticket and then have to pay again
for the main shows - there are big enough bands to headline the main show
right here in Durham. One of the biggest bands here in Durham was turned
away because one of the organizers doesn't like them personally.  If they
would have headlined the main show there may have been enough money to pay
them and the show could have avoided cancellation.

Why are there out of town bands asked to play the Durham Music Festival?  Is
this to boost attendance?

Why were the Durham musicians that volunteered in the past blocked from
volunteering again?

Hannah


On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Joel Peck  wrote:

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> But I'm sure there's an example that proves me wrong... > Troika is a
> beautiful thing, it brings us together as music lovers and local supportees.
> It puts a lot of area bands together on really big ecclectic bills.> But
> last year, it seemed like 3-4 band line ups featuring an unknown out of town
> act or 2 were more common. Hence, the thin crowds and disappointed
> attendees.
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Again, very legitimate points in that post which should be addressed, but
really, the personal stuff is conjecture.  I wasn't involved last year, but
I don't recall hearing anything about the festival turning a band down.  I'm
hoping, as amch's official cyber bully, that we can leave the gossip out and
focus on fostering (or festering) a productive community feedback thread can
yield improvements, not dredge up bad blood.  I don't think one of the
bigger bands in Durham is itching for a dust up about it.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:32 PM, hannah gush <hannahgush AT gmail.com> wrote:

> I think Joel hit it right on the head: Troika *is* a beautiful thing and
> no
> one thinks organizing these things is easy.  I am the girlfriend of a
> Durham
> musician and a HUGE local music fan.  To some it may seem I have no right
> to
> say anything but right up until last weekend people are still talking
> about
> how disappointed they were with Troika.  I thought if people were still
> this
> upset maybe there were some questions they wanted to ask the organizers,
> who
> I know post here on occasion.
>
> I know the issues I saw last year were mostly based around disorganization
> (three different times the various venues didn't know there was a show
> there, bands didn't know where and when they were playing).  Some of this
> may be an issue with the band/venue but the multitude of those problems
> says
> to me it was disorganization.
>
> The other issue is when we pay to get a ticket and then have to pay again
> for the main shows - there are big enough bands to headline the main show
> right here in Durham. One of the biggest bands here in Durham was turned
> away because one of the organizers doesn't like them personally.  If they
> would have headlined the main show there may have been enough money to pay
> them and the show could have avoided cancellation.
>
> Why are there out of town bands asked to play the Durham Music Festival?
>  Is
> this to boost attendance?
>
> Why were the Durham musicians that volunteered in the past blocked from
> volunteering again?
>
> Hannah
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Joel Peck <joelpeck88 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > But I'm sure there's an example that proves me wrong... > Troika is a
> > beautiful thing, it brings us together as music lovers and local
> supportees.
> > It puts a lot of area bands together on really big ecclectic bills.> But
> > last year, it seemed like 3-4 band line ups featuring an unknown out of
> town
> > act or 2 were more common. Hence, the thin crowds and disappointed
> > attendees.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Watch "Cause Effect," a show about real people making a real
> difference.
> > Learn more.> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause
> >
> > -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill -->
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
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