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- From: Peter Brink <peter.brink AT brinkdata.se>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: CC licenses and "moral rights"
- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:51:01 +0100
Peter Knupfer, H-Net skrev:
Rob Myers wrote:
On 18 Mar 2005, at 19:25, Peter Knupfer, H-Net wrote:
How does the CC by-attribution/noncommercial/noderivatives license affect a licensor's exercise of moral rights in a text? [...] Under the CC license mentioned above, the author has granted such a use. Outside the license, the author can refuse permission. Is this a correct interpretation of the license?
I am not a lawyer, I am not CC.
Yes, you are correct. Some international versions of the licenses explicitly reserve moral rights, but the original licenses are silent on them so they default to the baseline, which is that you have kept and can assert your moral rights.
I guess I don't understand. If you are referring to a "baseline" of US law, there are no recognized moral rights that can be asserted as a legal complaint of infringement. The only way to exercise them in a collective work under the CC license is to demand removal of your name. Otherwise, the CC license specifically permits verbatim reuse without notification or permission. The author therefore doesn't get the chance to refuse permission for whatever reason, if the use is consistent with the license terms. And the author has to know about the use in the first place.
Please remember that a copyright holder only waives such rights which are explicitly stated in the CC license (or any other copyright license for that matter), all other rights are retained by the copyright holder. If a copyright holder is entitled to moral rights in the jurisdiction in which his work is used, those rights are thus not waived.
A possible source of the confusion which seems to be the reason for this thread is that Open Source and Open Content licenses (as such) are governed by contractual law and international private law while the copyright (as such) is covered by copyright law and international copyright treaties (i.e. the Berne convention). Under the Berne convention the exact rights a copyright holder has varies depending on which jurisdiction he chooses to assert his (copy)right. The contractual obligations stated in the license may however either be interpreted according to the laws of the jurisdiction in which the licensor lives, or according to the laws of the jurisdiction in which the licensee lives.
It is thus quite possible that a US copyright holder who has issued a CC license for a work of his, may assert moral rights in Europe for that work, even though such rights are not stated in the license. And even if the license does state that moral rights are waived, a jurisdiction may have rules which denies a party the right to waive moral rights, invalidating that specific part of the license.
/Peter Brink
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Re: "Creative Commons in the News"
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Re: "Creative Commons in the News",
Sigmascape1, 03/16/2005
- Re: "Creative Commons in the News", drew Roberts, 03/16/2005
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Re: "Creative Commons in the News",
Sigmascape1, 03/18/2005
- Re: "Creative Commons in the News", Branko Collin, 03/18/2005
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Re: "Creative Commons in the News",
Sigmascape1, 03/18/2005
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CC licenses and "moral rights",
Peter Knupfer, H-Net, 03/18/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Daniel Carrera, 03/18/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", drew Roberts, 03/18/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Rob Myers, 03/19/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Peter Knupfer, H-Net, 03/24/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Peter Brink, 03/24/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Robin Millette, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", Peter Brink, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", drew Roberts, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", Peter Knupfer, H-Net, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", Greg London, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", Rob Myers, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", Greg London, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", Peter Knupfer, H-Net, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", Greg London, 03/24/2005
- Re: CC licenses and "moral rights", drew Roberts, 03/24/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Robin Millette, 03/24/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Peter Brink, 03/24/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Peter Knupfer, H-Net, 03/24/2005
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Re: CC licenses and "moral rights",
Daniel Carrera, 03/18/2005
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CC licenses and "moral rights",
Peter Knupfer, H-Net, 03/18/2005
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Re: "Creative Commons in the News",
Sigmascape1, 03/16/2005
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