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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

> Message from Steven
> ===================
> Sindi wrote:
> > > http://24.254.249.181:8080/jwmguide.php
> >
> > Could this info be posted at the BL site if it is not in BL itself?
>
> No, the link is here if people want to use it.
> IMHO jwm doesn't need documentation -- point
> and click, no problem.

I do not want to point and click.  I use the keyboard, and since jwm can 
be used without a mouse, would appreciate instructions for that.  It took 
a lot of hunting around to find them.

> > I do see a need for instructions on how to use
> > the wm included with BL.  It is less intuitive
> > than icewm.

If you open a window the focus is not on it already, you have to change 
the focus to that new window.  Ctrl-ESC opens the menu in icewm, same as 
Win98, but not jwm.  I can't exit via the menu without a mouse.

 >
> How so?  Both open the menu with right-click or
> via the action-box in the lower left corner

I don't use a mouse to access the menu in Windows or icewm.
Ctrl-ESC

> (just like MS-Windows).  Both open up submenus
> by clicking on a menu item (just like MS-Windows).
I use arrows and Enter key.

> Both define the menu via a text file (editable
> from the menu).  Actually it could be argued that
> icewm is less intuitive than jwm because icewm has
> many complicated configuration files while jwm has
> just one comprehensive file.

Icewm  uses Ctrl-ESC and changes focus to a new window.

> Yes, I know you prefer to use the keyboard rather
> than the mouse, but you are in a small minority.
> Most users (including myself) use the mouse and
> find jwm very intuitive.

I hope people can find my summary of how to use the keyboard in the 
archives.  At least three of my friends hate mice and appreciated icewm 
working without them.

> Cheers,
> Steven