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- From: "Rev. Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>
- To: "Rolf" <rolf.furuli AT sf-nett.no>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...
- Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:06:39 -0700
Dear Rolf,
The problem is that you think that the LXX manuscripts are:
1) All have the Tetragrammaton in them. At least that is how it is being
portrayed based on conjecture from a separate manuscript.
2) That the LXX is a "Christian OT, thus it is part of the NT manuscripts.
3) That since numbers 1 & 2 above are true, thus the NT manuscripts must
have them also.
4) Arguing from silence; which is a poor argument to begin with.
No original manuscript from the OT or NT is available. You arguments
for the Tetragrammaton is based on circular reasoning NOT on the evidence
available. The Tetragrammaton is found 6828 times in the Tanakh. It is
primarily representated as YHWH (yodh-he-waw-he) without the vowel pointings.
The Aramaic script adopted after the Babylonian Exile represents the
Paleo-Hebrew script that was still being used ca 150 BC - 70 AD at Qumran in
the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Isaiah Scroll, as far as I can tell, does not use
the Paleo-Hebrew script. Also the use of Adonai YHWH in Ezekiel 217 out 317
uses in the Tanakh shows that Adonai YHWH was viable title and name for the
God of Israel. The Tanakh as Canon was closed after Malachi (using English
order) or after II Chronicles (after Hebrew order). The issue of the
Apocrypha is another thing entirely and is not germane to this topic unless
there are Hebrew manuscripts of them. The LXX is germane to this topic since
it is the earliest translation of the Tanakh that bears witness to this
topic. The NT manuscripts are germane only as they bear witness to the fact
that NONE of them have the Tetragrammaton in them including the quotes and
allusions of the Tanakh.
Dear Moderators,
I think that one last post from all concerned should be enough on this topic
since we are at the point of more heat than light. If any one wants to
continue, the let them take it off-list.
Thank you for your long-suffering and patience.
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...
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- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Stephen Shead, 06/13/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
bhebrew, 06/13/2013
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[b-hebrew] George Howard and Girdlestone on Hebrew in the NT, paper on NT Hebrew issues,
Steven Avery, 06/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] George Howard and Girdlestone on Hebrew in the NT, paper on NT Hebrew issues,
Timothy Lawson, 06/14/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] George Howard and Girdlestone on Hebrew in the NT, paper on NT Hebrew issues, Timothy Lawson, 06/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] George Howard and Girdlestone on Hebrew in the NT, paper on NT Hebrew issues,
Timothy Lawson, 06/14/2013
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[b-hebrew] George Howard and Girdlestone on Hebrew in the NT, paper on NT Hebrew issues,
Steven Avery, 06/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Rolf, 06/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Ken Penner, 06/18/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Michael Abernathy, 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Rolf, 06/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., ps2866, 06/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 06/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Timothy Lawson, 06/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Stephen Shead, 06/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Rolf, 06/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
bhebrew, 06/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., ps2866, 06/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Rolf, 06/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., K Randolph, 06/17/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Chavoux Luyt, 06/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Dave Washburn, 06/16/2013
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