Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Rolf" <rolf.furuli AT sf-nett.no>]

Dear Ken,

Your comments are misleading, because you ignore the graphic evidence. The 
correct sequence is:

LXX: YHWH, IAO. 
NT: ???.
Vulgate:Dominus.

For the record, I would like to add that Jerome, who translated the Vulgate, 
wrote regarding LXX manuscripts:"The teragram, the name of God, we find in 
particular Greek scrolls today in old characters." (Prologus Galeatus. Migne 
PL 28.594f.)  Origen wrote: "In the most exact copies the name is found in 
Hebrew characters, not in the characters of today, but in old  characters." 
(Origen on Psalm 2,1. Migne, PG 12, 1104).

The Greek translations of Aquila (c. 130 CE), Theodotion (second century CE), 
and Symmacus (near the end of the second century CE) all have the name of God 
written as PIPI; Aquila also used Paleo-Hebrew Tetragrams. These three 
translations were included in Origen's Hexapla. Jerome says regarding PIPI: 
"The tetragram, which is regarded as inexpressible,, is written in these 
letters, yod, he, waw, he, which leads certain people who do not understand 
it to read PIPI, because of the similarity with its elements, when they find 
it in Greek letters." (Ep. 25, ad Marcellum. CSEL 54, 219)

I would also mention that Syro-Hexapla (an extremely literal Syriac 
translation of a part of Origen's Hexapla) has MRY) (Marya "lord) instead of 
YHWH. In the marigins of some Syro-Hexapla manuscripts we find HEHE and in 
others PIPI. This suggests that tetragrams in Paleo-Hebrew and Aramaic script 
were found in LXX manuscripts and probably also in Syraiac manuscripts.

So, in addition to the fact that all LXX manuscripts up to 50 CE have YHWH or 
IAO, there is evidence that God's name continued to be used in Greek and 
Syraic manuscripts for several centuries CE.


Best regards,



Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway
 




 
Tirsdag 11. Juni 2013 02:26 CEST skrev Ken Penner <kpenner AT stfx.ca>: 
 
> LXX: Kyrios. NT: Kyrios. Vulgate: Dominus.
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> Could I please ask the question this way , if I lived in the year 500ad , 
> and I had  copy of the LXX  and the New Testament and the  Vulgate , how 
> would I read the name of God in these three Bibles .
> 
> Would I see YHWH put in brackets in any verses.
> 
> doug belot
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