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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?
  • Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:24:40 -0400

1. It should be on their website, or in their pamphlet on the KTIYB XASAR HANIYKUD. Where exactly I don't know since I never go there, but I have it from absolutely reliably sources. They also "mandate" $ERUT, 'service', to be spelled $YRUT with a yod. The end result of all this will be that people will start to pronounce these words with a xireq: HIYRAYON, $IYRUT.
2. All these "proposals" are mere silly games; it will never happen.
3. The moot (actually the mute), or Talmudic, question is this: There is a dagesh in the letter M of IMA, 'mother', implying, according to the prevailing wisdom, that this consonant should be "doubled". But, the addition of a yod to bring to the spelling IYMA removes the need for this dagesh. So, is it IMMA, but only IYMA, or what?

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Apr 18, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Pere Porta wrote:

1. Can you, Isaac, provide the exact place of the rule of the Academy stating that "herayon" (Rt 4:13) has to be written "HYRAYON" (namely with included yod) in the hasar haniqud?

2. Remark that the proposal of a reform of the Hebrew script came from a member of a quite "orthodox" institution, the Academy of the Hebrew Language.

Regards,

Pere Porta




2011/4/18 Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>

Yes! In Rt 1:7 IMAH has a dagesh in the M instead of a yod. In Rt 1:18 ITAH has a dagesh in the T instead of a yod. In 1Sm 1:13 LIBH has a dagesh in the B instead of a yod.
I find the spelling אימא with a yod not only offensive, but also an insult to the human intelligence.
The occasional "debates" within the Israeli society about reforming the Hebrew script are exercises in futility; orthodoxy will never allow it.
There is this interesting instance of the spelling of HERAYON, 'pregnency', that the Hebrew "Academy" "mandates" should be written HYRAYON with a yod, an "edict" routinely spurned by the public.

Isaac Fried, Boston University





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