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- From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
- To: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
- Cc: Hebrew Forum <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?
- Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:53:20 -0400
Notice that in all these examples, to wit: qamtem, sartem, v'nastem, (all, by the way, with a "delayed" dagesh in the T), the performer of the act is also the receiver of the act. In HAMITEM of Nm. 17:6 the perpetrators of the act MWT are MO$EH and AHARON, while its "beneficiaries" are the people of Israel.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Apr 18, 2011, at 1:47 AM, Pere Porta wrote:
Karl,
In a first approach I think you may be right.
1. Concerning the form -------> we have parallels of your proposed (hamtem)
form in
a. Nm 32:14: qamtem
b. Dt 9:16: sartem
c. Zc 14:5: v'nastem
2. Concerning the meaning:
Maybe we have here a construction similar (not identical!) to that in Dt
7:23 (v'hamam).
But I find here a problem; Karl.
In a context of death and destruction (see 16:35 and the preceding
verses).... isn't it more logical the meaning "you killed" -namely,
related to verb "MWT"- than any meaning related to verb HWM?
Remark: the LXX writes "apektágkate", you killed: in the 3rd century b.C.E
(2,300 years ago). they understood "HMTM" as being related to verb "MWT" and
not to verb "HWM".
Friendly,
Pere Porta
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Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?,
Pere Porta, 04/16/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?,
K Randolph, 04/16/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?,
Pere Porta, 04/18/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?, Isaac Fried, 04/18/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?, K Randolph, 04/18/2011
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K Randolph, 04/19/2011
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Pere Porta, 04/20/2011
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?, K Randolph, 04/21/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?, Pere Porta, 04/21/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Someone knows?, Isaac Fried, 04/21/2011
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K Randolph, 04/16/2011
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