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- From: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
- To: Paul Zellmer <pzellmer AT sc.rr.com>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:50:50 -0600
Hello Paul:
Thanks for your simple and direct answer; and your nice explanation.
At least one scholar however, opines that septuagint represents a hebrew
text different from and precedent to, the masoretic text.
Does that opinion change your answer?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Tov#Septuagint
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Paul Zellmer <pzellmer AT sc.rr.com> wrote:
> Fred,
>
> The answer is in fact simple. It is "no," the Greek LXX does not define
> the meaning of the Masoretic text, any more than the versions of the English
> translations define it. The LXX is a translation, which means that there is
> an interpretive step, which is necessary to take the concept expressed by
> the original vocabulary, grammar, and syntax (the last two parts of which
> your questions always seem to overlook) and state it (the concept) using the
> target vocabulary, grammar, and syntax. Everyone who tries to understand
> any language that is foreign to them goes through this interpretive step.
> All that written translations of works do is to standardize the
> interpretation for those of the target language. The translation is only as
> good as the accuracy of the interpretation and its resulting expression. To
> some degree, all interpretations have an element of degradation of the
> original message.
>
> By continually trying to use the LXX to define the Hebrew text, most of us
> are actually running into two interpretations. Because most of us are not
> native Greek speakers, and definitely not native Koine speakers, we have to
> interpret the LXX into English. This adds a new level of degradation of to
> an already degraded message.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Paul Zellmer
>
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[b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
K Randolph, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
K Randolph, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
Paul Zellmer, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination, Paul Zellmer, 12/09/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination, fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
Paul Zellmer, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
K Randolph, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
K Randolph, 12/08/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
Yigal Levin, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam,
Hedrick Gary, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam,
fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam,
Hedrick Gary, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam,
fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam, Gary Hedrick, 12/10/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam, fred burlingame, 12/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam,
fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam,
Hedrick Gary, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam,
fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam,
Hedrick Gary, 12/09/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] ejectment vs. extermination,
fred burlingame, 12/09/2010
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