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Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah
- From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
- To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah
- Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:01:55 +0100
(K. W. Randolph)
Now when we explicitly double the ending consonant in the examples above,
almost all show very different meanings, making the claimed doubling very
questionable at best.
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(Pere Porta)
Give us, Karl, some examples of this.
Hearty,
Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
> > The noun אף is a geminate noun, which basically means that it consists
> of:
> > consonant – vowel – double consonant. However, one of the basic rules of
> > Hebrew is that it cannot begin or end a word with a doubled consonant. So
> in
> > its absolute state, you don’t notice its doubled second consonant because
> > the dagesh forte cannot be placed. However, as soon as you add anything
> to
> > the noun, like a plural ending or pronominal suffix, the doubled
> consonant
> > is no longer the last item in the word, and so the doubling reappears
> with a
> > dagesh forte.
> >
> > There are many such nouns in Hebrew: אף, חץ, עם, גן, אשׁ, חק, to name but
> a
> > few.
> >
> > GEORGE ATHAS
>
> I would argue that the doubling by use of the dagesh is a post-Biblical
> practice. Before the Babylonian Exile, there were no BGD-KPT softening of
> consonants, so any doubling would have to be explicit, rather than implicit
> using a dot.
>
> Now when we explicitly double the ending consonant in the examples above,
> almost all show very different meanings, making the claimed doubling very
> questionable at best.
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, K Randolph, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Will Parsons, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, George Athas, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Antonio Garcia, 11/19/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, K Randolph, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Isaac Fried, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Arnaud Fournet, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Isaac Fried, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh, Yigal Levin, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh, Isaac Fried, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Antonio Garcia, 11/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, K Randolph, 11/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Isaac Fried, 11/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Isaac Fried, 11/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah,
Isaac Fried, 11/14/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] dagesh in two root nouns with patah, Randall Buth, 11/14/2010
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