Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Rolf Furuli" <furuli AT online.no>]

Dear Kelton,

It is not my duty to defend the choices of the translators of the NWT.  I 
have defended my view that "time indefinite" is an excellent term serving a 
good purpose. You have a different view, and that is your privilege. All 
translations have strong and weak sides, including the NWT.


Best regards

Rolf Furuli
University of Oslo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kgraham0938 AT comcast.net>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II


> @Dr.Furuli:
>
> Ok, let me attempt to critic the NWT according to its procedure.  You 
> wrote
>
> .Dr.Furili: This English word
> > should represent the core meaning of the Hebrew concept, and the target
> > group should, on the basis of the use of this word in the Bible, be able 
> > to
> > clothe this word "with flesh," exactly what was necessary in the case of
> > Luther and the KJV. Given the principles of a literal translation, it is 
> > a
> > blind alley to ask what "time indefinite" means for the average English
> > speaker and whether it is regularly used in daily speech (but it was of
> > course proper for Kelton to ask about its meaning). The question is 
> > whether
> > it adequately can represent the core meaning of the Hebrew word (WLM, and
> > whether it effectively can be used by the English target group to get 
> > some
> > idea of the Hebrew concept behind (WLM. My answer is Yes! BTW, I 
> > personally
> > think the reference of Ecc 1:4 is eternality, but I think "to time
> > indefinite" is the best rendeering inthis verse.
>
> Response: I think I understand your points, but does "time-indefinite" 
> really capture the core essence of 'WLM?  You mentioned earlier that you 
> thought it's core meaning was "hidden time" or "undisclosed time."  But 
> "indefinite" does not mean either of those.
>
> Indefinite just means not specific, I don't think you could argue that it 
> means not revealed, undisclosed, or hidden.
>
> Hidden/unrevealed time is different than not specific/indefinite time.
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