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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Karl Randolph <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- Cc: Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/
- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:21:46 +0000
On 16/11/2004 23:44, Karl Randolph wrote:
----- Original Message -----Indeed. I now realise that the transliteration would have been in the opposite direction, Greek authors e.g. Herodotus who wrote about these Persian kings transliterating the Hebrew or Aramaic version of the name. They were likely to have seen the latter, but then it would have been more like the modern square shape than the palaeo-Hebrew shape, and anyway you said that the Aramaic spelling was different. So probably this argument breaks down.
From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
On 15/11/2004 23:51, Karl Randolph wrote:
...Interesting. I wonder if the author was somehow transliterating according to form and perhaps correspondence in alphabetical order rather than sound. That would suggest that the Greek alphabet was recognised as a variant of the Semitic one.
What I noticed is that the uncial Greek forms of sigma and xi are
recognizably derivitive from the paleo-Hebrew alphabet both in form and
pronunciation, and that the use of the xi was used mostly in the same places
as the samekh in Hebrew in the transliteration of Persian names as late as
Ezra and Nehemiah. ...
Most likely it was transliterated according to sound. It is very unlikely
that the Greeks and Hebrews had contact with each other late fifth
century/early fourth century BCE at the time Ezra and Nehemiah were written.
This was well before Alexander the Great, how influential were the Greeks in
Judea at that time? Probably unheard of.
--
Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Yigal Levin, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Uri Hurwitz, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Yigal Levin, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Uri Hurwitz, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Joe Baker, 11/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Yigal Levin, 11/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Yigal Levin, 11/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, gfsomsel, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Yitzhak Sapir, 11/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Karl Randolph, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/15/2004
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