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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/
- Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:48:48 -0500
Yigal:
When the Greeks adopted the Hebrew/Phoenician alphabet, did a difference
between sin and shin exist in Phoenician? There was no written difference.
The Greeks retained the samekh as a Xi "x" sound while they shifted the name
to the sigma, which was the sin/shin. The pre-exilic form of Hebrew samekh
was almost identical to the Greek uncial Xi and in the same place in the
alphabet. The Greeks dropped the tsada.
It looks as if Aramaic originally had a difference between samekh and sin at
the time of Daniel, but by a century later, at the time of Ezra or Esther, it
either was in the process of or had completed dropping that difference.
Apparently Hebrew under the influence of Aramaic dropped the difference
within a few generations of Ezra. Hence Arabic which is even later did not
have the samekh.
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
>
> It is interesting that Arabic does not have a Samekh. Ugaritic seems to have
> had both Sin and Samekh. When Greek adapted the Phoenician alphabet, they
> dropped Samekh, but retained Sin (Sigma). Phoenician certainly had Samekh.
>
> Yigal
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Peter Kirk, 11/14/2004
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[b-hebrew] Hebrew and Welsh?,
Yigal Levin, 11/14/2004
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[b-hebrew] Bethesda (was: Hebrew and Welsh?),
Ken Penner, 11/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Bethesda, Peter Kirk, 11/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew and Welsh?,
Jonathan Walther, 11/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew and Welsh?, Yigal Levin, 11/16/2004
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[b-hebrew] Bethesda (was: Hebrew and Welsh?),
Ken Penner, 11/15/2004
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[b-hebrew] Hebrew and Welsh?,
Yigal Levin, 11/14/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Yigal Levin, 11/14/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Kevin Riley, 11/14/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Uri Hurwitz, 11/14/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Yigal Levin, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Uri Hurwitz, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Yigal Levin, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Uri Hurwitz, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Karl Randolph, 11/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Peter Kirk, 11/14/2004
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