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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12
- From: c stirling bartholomew <cc.constantine AT worldnet.att.net>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12
- Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:28:47 -0700
Peter,
Here is a summary of how neshaq is rendered in the LXX,
DRASSOMAI Psa. 2:12 where LEH suggests that it represents a different
reading.
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LEH entry for DRASSOMAI
Lv 2:2; 5:12; Nm 5:26; Ps 2:12; Jdt 13:7 4:41 to grasp, to lay hold of
[tino"] Jdt 13:7; to take (by handfuls) [ti] Lv 2:2;
*Ps 2:12 dravxasqe -nsw or ns¹w to accept for MT nshqw kiss
Cf. DUBARLE 1955, 510-511; HELBING 1928, 128
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KATEFILHSAN
LEH- Gn 31:28; 32:1; 45:15; Ex 4:27; 1 Sm 20:41
to kiss, to embrace [tina] (between relatives) Gn 31:28; id. [tina]
(in greeting) 2 Sm 14:33; id. [ti] Sir 29:5; to embrace each other
(metaph.) Ps 84(85):11 ...
PSA. 84:11 ELEOS KAI ALHQEIA SUNHNTHSAN DIKAIOSUNH KAI EIRHNH KATEFILHSAN
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EFILHSEN
LEH - to love [tina] Est 10:3; to kiss [tina] (between parents and
children) Gn 27:26; id. [tina] (between a whore and a man) Prv 7:13; to
like, to be fond of [ti] Prv 21:17; to kiss ...
EX. 18:7 EXHLQEN DE MWUSHS EIS SUNANTHSIN TWi GAMBRWi AUTOU KAI PROSEKUNHSEN
AUTWi KAI EFILHSEN AUTON KAI HSPASANTO ALLHLOUS KAI EISHGAGEN AUTON EIS THN
SKHNHN
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PROSKUNEVW
LEH - to fall down and worship, to do reverence to, to do obeisance to, to
prostrate oneself before, to salute [abs.] Gn 18:2; id. [tini] (to pers.)
Gn 27:29; to fall down and worship [tini] (to God) Gn 24:26; id. [tini]
(to idols) Ps 96(97):7; id. [tina] (to pers.) Gn 37:9; id. [tina] (to God)
JgsA 7:15; id. [ti] Gn 37:7; to bow down, to beg, to plead, to implore Ex
11:8 ...
1KINGS 19:18 KAI KATALEIYEIS EN ISRAHL hEPTA CILIADAS ANDRWN PANTA GONATA hA
OUK WKLASAN GONU TWi BAAL KAI PAN STOMA hO OU PROSEKUNHSEN AUTWi
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You will note that out of the 40 examples I looked at in E.Tov's MT/LXX
database only 1KINGS 19:18 supplants the notion of kissing with something
else, worshiping. This doesn't make a case for euphanism in the LXX in
regard to neshaq. I think the LEH editors have done a good job here in
regard to DRASSOMAI in Psa. 2:12.
greetings, Clay
--
Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062
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[b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX on Psa. 2:12,
Deborah Millier, 05/27/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX on Psa. 2:12,
c stirling bartholomew, 05/27/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
Peter Kirk, 05/27/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
c stirling bartholomew, 05/28/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
Peter Kirk, 05/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
c stirling bartholomew, 05/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
c stirling bartholomew, 05/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
c stirling bartholomew, 05/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
c stirling bartholomew, 05/28/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
Peter Kirk, 05/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
c stirling bartholomew, 05/28/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX onPsa. 2:12,
Peter Kirk, 05/27/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] ur-textual possibilities between MT and LXX on Psa. 2:12,
c stirling bartholomew, 05/27/2003
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