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  • From: Paul Beel <beelboing AT yahoo.com>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] website
  • Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:40:57 -0700 (PDT)

I would like to add, when I helped Jason before, it
was a pleasure working with him. He does a great job.
So I would be happy to work along side him again.

Paul J. Beel
aka novaburst



--- Jason Flatt <jflatt AT sourcemage.org> wrote:

> On Thursday 19 October 2006 07:31, Jeremy Blosser
> wrote:
> > On Oct 19, David Kowis [dkowis AT shlrm.org] wrote:
> > > Pieter Lenaerts wrote:
> > > > hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I know I missed all stuff on irc about this,
> but I can't help that I
> > > > want to know what's going on.
> > > >
> > > > 1. What happened to our website?
>
>
> What happened is a bit of a freak occurrence, and I
> cannot even find a reason
> for it happening. It seems that the anonymous user
> was deleted from the
> database. Since there is no way that I know of to
> delete that user from the
> Web interface, it would have had to have been done
> at the database level. It
> is possible that the cron update might have
> triggered it, but that seems
> extremely unlikely.
>
>
> > > Something happened to the internals of drupal.
> Oadaeh is working on it,
> > > but he's a busy person.
> > >
> > > > 2. What is being done about it or what are we
> planning to do about it?
> > >
> > > Well, we could bring up the topic of moving away
> from drupal. I don't
> > > think it's turned out to be as useful as we'd
> thought. We could simply
> > > use the locking feature of MoinMoin and just use
> that as our site. It'd
> > > need to be cleaned up a bit, but that's
> possible.
> > > Also, some people actually do use those forum
> things. I don't know
> > > what's wrong with them either...
>
>
> Since there is quite a bit of discussion here and on
> IRC about this currently,
> I would like to take this opportunity to point out a
> couple of things.
>
> First, no matter what software is chosen, there will
> always be the potential
> for something breaking and that aspect of the site
> being unavailable. If you
> want as simple as possible with as little chance for
> breakage as possible,
> then you need to go back to a straight HTML site,
> but then you lose the
> advantages gained by using software. Also, you
> would still need multiple
> people available for updates, possibly more so,
> given the static nature of a
> straight HTML site. Even MoinMoin has the
> possibility of breaking and
> requiring someone with knowledge of it and/or Python
> to fix it. How many
> people do we have available who knows that software?
>
> Second, I didn't say I was going away, I just said I
> thought I was too busy to
> be in charge of the Tome team. I think my lack of
> activity for the past
> several months is a testament to that. I don't have
> a problem staying on the
> team and helping where possible, both
> w/documentation and Web site
> maintenance. I'm just not sure I should be the
> leader. In retrospect, it
> seems that most (all?) of the leads have been less
> available than previously,
> so it may not matter if I stay as lead or not, but
> I'll leave that to the
> community.
>
>
> > Given that Jason's had to step down as Tome Lead
> due to time commitments we
> > definitely need to either have someone else step
> up and get familiar enough
> > with Drupal or find something else. It's a very
> Bad Idea for us to run a
> > web front end package without an administrator,
> for security reasons if
> > nothing else.
> >
> > Note, there's nothing that says the Tome Lead has
> to be the web app admin,
> > and that's not what I'm saying... the Tome Lead's
> primary role is
> > documentation, nothing else. It was convenient
> that Jason could just
> > manage the entire site as well but it's not
> actually part of his job
> > description. But if he doesn't have time for the
> Tome Lead functions he
> > obviously doesn't have time for administering
> Drupal either (as the length
> > of this outage shows).
> >
> > No offense is intended to Jason of course, he's
> done all he can during this
> > outage to make time to work on it and it looks
> like he may have it working
> > again now, stay tuned....
>
> --
> Jason Flatt
> Source Mage GNU/Linux: Linux so advanced, it may as
> well be magic.
> http://www.sourcemage.org/
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