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  • From: Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>
  • To: SM Discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Glitch in `gaze voyeur'
  • Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:06:42 -0700 (PDT)

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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Andrew wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 12:19:02AM -0400, Sergey A. Lipnevich wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 20:49 -0700, Andrew wrote:
Should I file a bug? Thanks, Sergey.

What would make you think otherwise?

Answer: realization that it may be easier to fix it than to file a bug
about it.

Heres a realization, I have other things to do than to remember every
problem people report on the mailing list from begining to end. My memory
is better spent on other things.

Nor do I have time or energy to drop *everything* and fix the problem
*right now* just because it *may* be "easier". Thats what bugzilla is
for, it remembers so I dont have to. Bugzilla is very good at tracking
defects throughout their life-cycle, a mailing list is not.
I like to have every single bug associated with a release recorded in
bugzilla.

The mailing list is not a bug reporting tool. Don't report bugs on it
unless you want them to be forgotten within a day or two. In two days
I will *not* remember this email thread. We use bugzilla for a reason,
just like we use version control for a reason.

I dont understand why its so difficult to spend 20 seconds filing a bug.
Everyone else reports their problems to bugzilla, I am not going to make
this an exception, if I did I'd have to make everyone else an
exception. So, please file bugs when you have problems.

I dont play the bad guy on reporting bugs to bugzilla (!) just to be
annoying. I know you think that the problem is so trivial I should just
look at it and fix it on the spot. I dont believe in having problems
go untracked. I think we should use the appropriate tools rather than
seeking to subvert or skip them. If it isnt in bugzilla, as far as I
am concerned, it isn't a bug. If people can't handler that notion, then
find someone else to do this job.

So in conclusion, "mailing list != bugzilla" and "report bugs to
bugzilla, not the mailing list". Why? Because Andrew is forgetful
and busy.

-Andrew

PS Im on the mailing list, you dont have to send a duplicate reply to me.

A little harsher than I would have worded it, but yes, Bugzilla is
there so that bugs can be remembered and prioritized. The mailing list
is fine for discussions of ideas, thoughts, etc., however, bugs should
be submitted and discussed in Bugzilla only (if/when possible) since
then the discussion will be 'remembered' for future reference.

- -sandalle

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Eric Sandall | Source Mage GNU/Linux Developer
eric AT sandall.us | http://www.sourcemage.org/
http://eric.sandall.us/ | SysAdmin @ Inst. Shock Physics @ WSU
http://counter.li.org/ #196285 | http://www.shock.wsu.edu/
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