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["Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT optimaltec.com>]

Andrew,

I sincerely ask you to please keep your anger and whining at bay. For a
long time now, I'm not interested in knowing your emotional state.
You're not the only one who can fix it. So, if it doesn't entertain you
to be informal and discuss things on the list, feel free to ignore my
requests. When I need your attention, I'll gladly file a bug.
And please, don't touch line 821 of gaze, there are more important
things to be busy with.

Sergey.

On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 21:53 -0700, Andrew wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 12:19:02AM -0400, Sergey A. Lipnevich wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 20:49 -0700, Andrew wrote:
> > > > Should I file a bug? Thanks, Sergey.
> > > 
> > > What would make you think otherwise?
> > 
> > Answer: realization that it may be easier to fix it than to file a bug
> > about it.
> 
> Heres a realization, I have other things to do than to remember every
> problem people report on the mailing list from begining to end. My memory
> is better spent on other things.
> 
> Nor do I have time or energy to drop *everything* and fix the problem
> *right now* just because it *may* be "easier". Thats what bugzilla is
> for, it remembers so I dont have to. Bugzilla is very good at tracking
> defects throughout their life-cycle, a mailing list is not.
> I like to have every single bug associated with a release recorded in
> bugzilla.
> 
> The mailing list is not a bug reporting tool. Don't report bugs on it
> unless you want them to be forgotten within a day or two. In two days
> I will *not* remember this email thread. We use bugzilla for a reason,
> just like we use version control for a reason.
> 
> I dont understand why its so difficult to spend 20 seconds filing a bug.
> Everyone else reports their problems to bugzilla, I am not going to make
> this an exception, if I did I'd have to make everyone else an
> exception. So, please file bugs when you have problems.
> 
> I dont play the bad guy on reporting bugs to bugzilla (!) just to be
> annoying. I know you think that the problem is so trivial I should just
> look at it and fix it on the spot. I dont believe in having problems
> go untracked. I think we should use the appropriate tools rather than
> seeking to subvert or skip them. If it isnt in bugzilla, as far as I
> am concerned, it isn't a bug. If people can't handler that notion, then
> find someone else to do this job.
> 
> So in conclusion, "mailing list != bugzilla" and "report bugs to
> bugzilla, not the mailing list". Why? Because Andrew is forgetful
> and busy.
> 
> -Andrew
> 
> PS Im on the mailing list, you dont have to send a duplicate reply to me.
> 
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Sergey A. Lipnevich <sergey AT optimaltec.com>
Optimal Technologies