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  • From: Benoit PAPILLAULT <benoit.papillault AT sourcemage.org>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] i386 ISO
  • Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:21:57 +0100

Andrew a écrit :
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 06:53:53PM +0100, Benoit PAPILLAULT wrote:
In fact, we need someone (Cauldron Team Lead?) to decide on what will be on the next ISO. Unet told me yesterday that he was going to post a message about it.

Can we /please/ work on the basic functionality of iso generation before
we go crazy on niche features? I know its "cool" to have mini-cd's and
to use squashfs and to have all sorts of stuff. However we need to be
at a point where someone just has to "turn the crank" and have all the
isos built and ready to go. Then it'll be a lot easier to tinker with
features. Last I checked we're pretty far from anything that anyone
can just use to make an iso. In fact we've got two completely independent
streams of development and never the two shall meet. Just imagine if
there were two implementations of sorcery...

Yes. Right now, it seems that me and BearPersonn are the only people
working on the ISO. We lack a lead that will make decision. So, like you
said and like I explained to BearPersonn, we are just working on
different tracks and we will end up with two differents set of scripts
and only one will go, the other one will be lost.

This is already what we have in our p4 repository and this is confusing.
Why our Cauldron Team Lead does not participate in those discussions?
Why only ideas are discussed and not decisions made? We had a meeting in
December and I still wonder if the log is available online on the wiki.

What would happen if we were ten people in the Cauldron Team? It would
end up with 10 implementation of the ISO. Moreover, we have a stable ISO
(even if bugs are reported on it) and we have no script in the stable
branch of our p4 repository.

I talked to Unet few days ago and he will be busy with work and thesis
up to February or March apparently. Our Roadmap is to make a 1.0 release
on 2005-04-03. So, this will let only one month or two to gather the
work made by the Cauldron Team Members and produce a working ISO.

On the top of that, I see requests added to this 1.0 ISO on bugzilla,
like to have a 2.4 kernel ISO
(http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7925), remove bash from the
initrd (http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7939), have a
monolithic kernel as well
(http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7822), support for USB CDROM
(http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6934) and USB keyboards
(http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7911). And right now, we
have no beta testers.

Another point. Along all those discussions, we have changed from
building a working ISO used to install Source Mage to producing a nice
and portable script that will let anyone do its own ISO. This is not the
same goal even if the former requires the latter (or part of it).

Benoit PAPILLAULT, ISO guru






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