permaculture

[<scott@permaculture.org>]

Mr. London, you have put on your high heeled jingosim again.  If you can call 
Iran and China "thugs" (it's beyond me how your left out Russia and the USA) 
you are taking a pro-American and antil-Iran and China position ipso facto.  
Every country with any industrial capacity at all has adopted the neoliberal 
view of politics and all of them act like thugs, including the USA, if it 
sells more bombs, bullets, and other war hardware it is "just" business.  No 
matter how much collateral damage (dead civilians) it causes.  I am a little 
bewildered by your knee jerk patriotism at the slightest hint that the "good 
ol' USA" may be responsible for war all over the planet.  With hundreds of 
military bases to protect its investments.  NATO is nothing more than an 
excuse for having military bases surrounding Russia which is certainly 
justification for Russia to become uneasy.  Remember when Russia attempted to 
place missiles in Cuba?  We were readyto start WWIII.

The sound of your waving flag is drowning out the possibility of a sensible 
conversation.

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
>  To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>  Subject: Re: [permaculture] [OT] My Vision of the Future (now!)
>  Sent: Aug 04 '16 11:45
>  
>  On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Michael Elvin <marimike6@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  
>  > , if we take a position of being pro-American we tend to become a little
>  > anti-everyone else (the "thugs").
>  
>  No we do not, maybe you. Who exactly are you referring to?
>  
>  > And so the wars will cotinue.
>  
>  No they won't. Only the America haters want that so they will have adequate
>  raison d'etre or whatever
>  banner they want to rally behind for whatever cause, usually puffing smoke
>  up someone's at best as far as I can tell.
>  
>  --
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