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  • From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] [OT] My Vision of the Future
  • Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:23:12 -0400

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Georg Parlow <g.parlow@gmx.at> wrote:

> please do not get me wrong - sorry when I was unclear here. I personally
> feel that a discussion of invisible structures is a highly impoertant part
> of why I am on this international list. Nut’n’bolts info is valuable, and I
> think none of us can ever have too much of that, but I feel that for the
> visible structures there are plenty of good solutions around, locally and
> beyond. Even 50% of what I know about them right now and my design training
> and experience would be ample enough IF I could and would apply them
> unhindered by the current invisible structures in place. So discussion on
> HOW we can design and implement WHICH invisible structures is highly needed.
>
> I think we can also all agree on the notion, that interlocking our horns
> on our favoured propaganda-fed belief systems is something we could do
> without - BUT in order to grow in our inner freedom from those influences
> it might need some of that. It might be helpful in realizing or
> discriminating between, what are original thougths and what are
> propaganda-driven emotional reactions to distorted perception of reality.
> This is tricky business, and I appreciate these discussions.
>
> This is brilliant, Georg. I am with you 100% May discussion roll
unhindered and without anyone unsubscribing. Steve can look for rules to
break but he might not find any. :-)


> I interpreted that naming the invisible structures group PISS as a
> Freudian sign of you being pissed about said confrontations.
>

Well, I realized my error in the content of some of my posts, current
politics, but at least it got some discussion going. Actually I did not
have that in mind, with all respects to Sigmund, but it was definitely
irreverent and heretical. Google would probably block searches to such
archives.

>
> I personally think that a separate group for this would attract little
> attention and soon die. To this mix is a good solution, in spite of some
> pleople signing off ever now and then.
>

I agree.

LL
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