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["scrooge McDuck" <declan@planetmail.net>]

Dieter is finally back on the original subject. I agree, Dieter, and what have the last few thousand years proved? Men have tried every form of Government ( Monarchies, Dictatorships, Triumvirates, Every form of government ending in 'archy'  and  'racy') and every economic system and they have all failed utterly. I truly believe man cannot govern himself successfully. He never has.

The combination of Population Growth, Capitalism, Industry & Technology has ruined the planet. This resonates with the Scrip[tural information provided earlier which apparently went down like a lead balloon :-/.

 

Regards,

 

Declan Moriartyn - Location Dublin, Ireland.

 

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 12:02 PM
From: "Dieter Brand" <brand.dieter2015@gmail.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] [OT] My Vision of the Future

On 30/07/2016, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>Would anyne in their right mond vote for Trump?

As we reach the limits of the carrying capacity of the planet, we also
reach the limits of economic growth. There are no more new markets out
there; no more new territories to colonize. The empire has no more
space for further expansion.

Without further expansion and with decreasing prospects for the middle
classes, the discontent among the people gives the populists the
opportunity to succeed with their simplistic hate message. Trump,
Brexit, Islamist terror, Islamophobes, Erdogan, right-wing racists and
white Supremacists, they are all symptoms of the same malaise.

Globalisation has provided unprecedented material wealth to the
industrial West. Now we have reached the limits and it's time to pay
up because the rest of the world wants its share of the cake.

In view of the failure of socialism and capitalism, I support the
social market economy and the political center against the political
extremes on the left and the right. Retrenchment into nationalism, or
social nationalism, is a dead end and leads us straight to fascism.
The wealthy West needs to reduce international inequality by helping
poor countries develop, by taking care of war refugees and by
channeling the flow of economic migrants.


Cheers, Dieter