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  • From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Confronting the Context: Permaculture and Capitalism
  • Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 01:45:47 -0400

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Other aspects of new business models are:
>> Feedback loop from critics embraced and used to improve model (accepting
>> feedback loop and self-regulating, and the problem is the solution)
>> Creating strategy around interrelationship of stakeholders (integrate,
>> don't segregate)
>> Observe and interact (deep surveys, interviews of clients)
>> Capture and store energy (waste stream repurpose/recycle/redesign)
>> Creatively respond to change
>> Stack functions
>> Pattern to detail
>> etc
>>
>> The three ethics are embodied in B Corp value, employee ownership,
>> rejection of unlimited growth as a goal, new forms of business goalmaking,
>> etc. Of course, we well understand there is hypocrisy there; false reports,
>> etc. But companies are also feeling pressure and some are responding. I'm
>> always looking for ways to increase that pressure and won't stop unless or
>> until there is real ethics being practiced. I personally believe that the
>> economic "ism" that is being used is not as important as the quality of the
>> system design. None of the "isms" really cut it without great permaculture
>> design.
>> Koreen Brennan
>>
>
> That is amazing and really great, in-depth thinking, employing the
> creative process throughout. It shows yet again that permaculture dominates
> and that ethics drive the whole systems thinking process.
>
> Great post. {If this list had such features] I would give it an upvote and
> an 5/10 rating. Reddit does this but does not have email or as effective an
> archival system as a list such as this one.
>

Dominionism tells those who want to rationalize polluting for profit that
they don't have to be a cog in the natural machinery of Gaia, a mere
worker, lowly peons like everyone else dependent on
Earth's life support system for health and well being, continued survival
for theirs and future generations. Instead, they can own it for themselves
to dominate and exploit without giving it a second thought
or feeling the need to seek out alternative solutions and possibilities.
Every time I read the news it appears that this is the dominant paradigm,
for now. .

Bees.
Late winter/early Spring 2013 I saw about a dozen honey bees foraging in
my fields. Since then I have not seen a single one, Zero. Rien, Nada; Zero
bees on my property. This time of year I have a bumper crop of goldenrod in
bloom, offering prime food for bees. Not one bee has been seen amongst the
flowers. Growing up, I always assumed that bees were a fixture on the
landscape and that
good local honey would always be available and affordable in the grocery
stores. Not so, it seems. Herbicides, nicotinoid fungicides, lack of
diverse food sources for bees are all factors to blame for this.
Will native honeybees every return? Wild bees? Successful commercial
apairies? One wonders. I have seen large populations of bumblebees,
carpenter bees, wasps and other alternative pollinating insects at work on
my land this year. One wonders how long even those will be around. Is it
just my region of N.C. or is this situation common throughout the U.S.?

LL




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