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[HeenanDoherty <heenandoherty@gmail.com>]

John would you mind if I put this on FB? I just read some research about 
Norweigan Seamans infertility due to liquid soap. 

Yours & Growing,

Lisa Heenan & Darren Doherty

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On 09/12/2012, at 7:01 AM, "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net> wrote:

> Many chemicals penetrate the skin extremely fast Dieter. One of the best 
> known for that is DMSO which is quite a useful painkiller topically 
> applied. 
> But anyway, mix one drop of mint oil in with some DMSO and put a drop on 
> the 
> ground. Stand in it with your bare foot and you will taste the mint in your 
> mouth in a few seconds.
> 
> In another life I worked in laboratories and sometimes with radioactive 
> labeled biochemical molecules. You could work in a laminar flow and with 
> double gloves on and when you went for a pee half an hour later you could 
> measure the radioactivity in your urine which was not at all good since we 
> thought we had taken every possible safety precaution.
> 
> Triclosan does penetrate the skin somewhat. Not a lot or you would 
> immediately die or turn infertile at the least. But the effect builds up 
> with repeated use.
> Not only that but you can smell the triclosan when you apply the pump. This 
> can only mean that it also gets in your lungs and from there into your 
> blood 
> stream is a logical step. Again the amounts and effects are small but it 
> builds up over time.
> And then people who use this soap regularly will wash their hands with it 
> before a meal. Bingo.
> 
> To me there is a huge difference between cleanliness and hygiene. Hygiene 
> is 
> to do with health and for me that means having large numbers of good 
> bacteria present everywhere. (healthy ecology) In recent years doctors have 
> used fecal transfers to cure diseases thought incurable such as autism. Not 
> often, because the thought of such an act sickens most people. Also because 
> it is cheap and brings no money to big pharma. It works better than 
> anything 
> else.
> 
> Cleanliness to me is a ritual, almost religious concept and aims for 
> sterility and that often has very bad effects. For example, one can pick up 
> a super lethal bug most easily in hospitals that aim to be sterile 
> environments with plenty of triclosan being used.
> 
> These last two paragraphs to explain why I would not touch liquid soap with 
> a ten foot pole.
> 
> john
> 
>>> They could have but almost all liquid soaps contain
>>> Triclosan.
>> 
>> John, what I don't understand is how soap applied to the outside of the 
>> body can cause infertility.  Is it that the active substances penetrate 
>> the skin?
>> 
>> Dieter
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