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  • From: "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>
  • To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] French sperm count down by one third
  • Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:52:55 -0000


Sorry no can do. I get so much information in that I just try to remember main lines. Names and dates and citations go out the window.
I have been hearing about it from medical doctors for a few years. In fact I used the technique succesfully with a sick lamb as long as ten years ago myself. And to me it makes sense. There are more bacteria living in and on our bodies than we have human cells. There are a factor thousand more bacterial genes in and around us than we have genes ourselves.

Ah, just googled "faecal transplant" and there is a lot to be seen there. I think most of it in connection with a "new" super bug Clostridium dificile.
john

Please include citations on Fecal Transfers, this is the first I've heard of
it and it sounds like one of those things like Hoxsey, and other healers who
were hounded to death (literally) by the AMA for threatening the cash flow.

Thanks,
Scott

"Another world is not only possible, she is on her way.
On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing."
~Arundhati Roy

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[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of John D'hondt
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 1:02 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] French sperm count down by one third

Many chemicals penetrate the skin extremely fast Dieter. One of the best
known for that is DMSO which is quite a useful painkiller topically applied.

But anyway, mix one drop of mint oil in with some DMSO and put a drop on the

ground. Stand in it with your bare foot and you will taste the mint in your
mouth in a few seconds.

In another life I worked in laboratories and sometimes with radioactive
labeled biochemical molecules. You could work in a laminar flow and with
double gloves on and when you went for a pee half an hour later you could
measure the radioactivity in your urine which was not at all good since we
thought we had taken every possible safety precaution.

Triclosan does penetrate the skin somewhat. Not a lot or you would
immediately die or turn infertile at the least. But the effect builds up
with repeated use.
Not only that but you can smell the triclosan when you apply the pump. This
can only mean that it also gets in your lungs and from there into your blood

stream is a logical step. Again the amounts and effects are small but it
builds up over time.
And then people who use this soap regularly will wash their hands with it
before a meal. Bingo.

To me there is a huge difference between cleanliness and hygiene. Hygiene is

to do with health and for me that means having large numbers of good
bacteria present everywhere. (healthy ecology) In recent years doctors have
used fecal transfers to cure diseases thought incurable such as autism. Not
often, because the thought of such an act sickens most people. Also because
it is cheap and brings no money to big pharma. It works better than anything

else.

Cleanliness to me is a ritual, almost religious concept and aims for
sterility and that often has very bad effects. For example, one can pick up
a super lethal bug most easily in hospitals that aim to be sterile
environments with plenty of triclosan being used.

These last two paragraphs to explain why I would not touch liquid soap with
a ten foot pole.

john

They could have but almost all liquid soaps contain
Triclosan.

John, what I don't understand is how soap applied to the outside of the
body can cause infertility. Is it that the active substances penetrate
the skin?

Dieter
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