permaculture

[bob@bobwaldrop.net]

A friend of mine received a fecal transplant at a major local hospital to
cure a c-difficile infection that was resisting more conventional
treatments.

Bob Waldrop, Okie City

> Scott--
>
> Fecal transplants were mentioned in this article
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/22/121022fa_fact_specter
>
> non-subscribers only get the abstract, but the story was about  the
> benefits of a healthy gut flora and how doctors are finally getting that
> we need a diverse flora and that antibiotics destroy it. They mentioned
> people with severely damaged flora who are terribly sick, and how fecal
> transplants from family members is a highly effective cure. One man with
> severe ear infections, that doctors were never able to treat, cured
> himself by putting earwax from the uninfected ear into the infected ear.
> It's a very encouraging article.
>
> Toby
> http://patternliteracy.com
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Scott Pittman wrote:
>
>> Please include citations on Fecal Transfers, this is the first I've
>> heard of
>> it and it sounds like one of those things like Hoxsey, and other healers
>> who
>> were hounded to death (literally) by the AMA for threatening the cash
>> flow.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>>
>> "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way.
>> On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing."
>> ~Arundhati Roy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of John
>> D'hondt
>> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 1:02 PM
>> To: permaculture
>> Subject: Re: [permaculture] French sperm count down by one third
>>
>> Many chemicals penetrate the skin extremely fast Dieter. One of the best
>> known for that is DMSO which is quite a useful painkiller topically
>> applied.
>>
>> But anyway, mix one drop of mint oil in with some DMSO and put a drop on
>> the
>>
>> ground. Stand in it with your bare foot and you will taste the mint in
>> your
>> mouth in a few seconds.
>>
>> In another life I worked in laboratories and sometimes with radioactive
>> labeled biochemical molecules. You could work in a laminar flow and with
>> double gloves on and when you went for a pee half an hour later you
>> could
>> measure the radioactivity in your urine which was not at all good since
>> we
>> thought we had taken every possible safety precaution.
>>
>> Triclosan does penetrate the skin somewhat. Not a lot or you would
>> immediately die or turn infertile at the least. But the effect builds up
>> with repeated use.
>> Not only that but you can smell the triclosan when you apply the pump.
>> This
>> can only mean that it also gets in your lungs and from there into your
>> blood
>>
>> stream is a logical step. Again the amounts and effects are small but it
>> builds up over time.
>> And then people who use this soap regularly will wash their hands with
>> it
>> before a meal. Bingo.
>>
>> To me there is a huge difference between cleanliness and hygiene.
>> Hygiene is
>>
>> to do with health and for me that means having large numbers of good
>> bacteria present everywhere. (healthy ecology) In recent years doctors
>> have
>> used fecal transfers to cure diseases thought incurable such as autism.
>> Not
>> often, because the thought of such an act sickens most people. Also
>> because
>> it is cheap and brings no money to big pharma. It works better than
>> anything
>>
>> else.
>>
>> Cleanliness to me is a ritual, almost religious concept and aims for
>> sterility and that often has very bad effects. For example, one can pick
>> up
>> a super lethal bug most easily in hospitals that aim to be sterile
>> environments with plenty of triclosan being used.
>>
>> These last two paragraphs to explain why I would not touch liquid soap
>> with
>> a ten foot pole.
>>
>> john
>>
>>>> They could have but almost all liquid soaps contain
>>>> Triclosan.
>>>
>>> John, what I don't understand is how soap applied to the outside of the
>>> body can cause infertility.  Is it that the active substances penetrate
>>> the skin?
>>>
>>> Dieter
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