permaculture

[Jon Raney <phoenixjon@gmail.com>]

My father, a botanist, told me that English walnuts were grafted to Black
walnut rootstock to address the English Walnuts vulnerability to a root
fungus which kills the tree. The native black walnut is not subject to the
fungus.JMR

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:12 AM, loren luyendyk <loren@sborganics.com>wrote:

>
> Tripp-
>
> My Mother lives in Ojai, Ca and has an old english walnut orchard on her
> property.  They are grafted onto native black walnut rootstocks.  Seedlings
> come up and they seem to be pretty much the same as the english parent.
>  There are more english than balck walnuts around her area nowadays so any
> sexual crossing would be from mostly english parentage.
>
> I have never seen them fruit (as they often get pulled out before they
> mature as her yard is too small to accomodate many more walnut trees)-
> though I have seen "wild" english walnut seedlings fruiting in waste areas.
>  Walnuts are monoecious- meaning both male and female flowers are borne on
> the same tree, and can self pollinate.
>
> Grafted trees are precocious (fruit readily) because the scion wood is
> often mature and has the memory of fruiting, and will fruit soon after
> taking.  A seedling often takes many many more years to fruit than a graft
> or cutting from a mature tree.
>
> You could try to grow out some black walnut seeds and then graft your
> favorite variety onto that.  Also black walnuts are quite tasty, being much
> more oily than english.  The shells are pretty thick though.
>
> Seeds from the supermarket will likely be dead and not have great
> germination, though if you could get some fresh from the farmers market
> those will probably work.
> Loren Luyendyk
> (805) 452-8249
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>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:17:24 -0500
> > From: qazingulaza@gmail.com
> > To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] walnuts from seed
> >
>  > Tripp, I've also heard that walnuts are fairly true to seed & grow out
> > the best selections of buartnuts from my forest garden with fairly
> > similar results.
> >
> > As to you're other question, I wouldn't necessarily assume that the
> > ones in the grocery stores are the best cultivars.  For that
> > information I would check out NAFEX & Northern Nut Growers, both which
> > have growers who've been growing out many many varieties & continually
> > observing them.
> >
> > ~mIEKAL
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Tripp Tibbetts <slowfoodguy@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What little literature I've seen suggests that walnuts will come true
> from seed, regardless of the parent's rootstock.  Does anyone know for sure
> if this is the case?  Also, is there any reason why regular old walnuts at
> the grocery store wouldn't germinate?  I would assume those would be
> superior cultivars.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Tripp
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Jon Raney
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