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- From: "E. E. Mitchamore Jr" <emitch@att.net>
- To: <john@eco-living.net>, "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program
- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:46:55 -0600
ABSOLUTELY! Well said! But if only the "Choir" (that's us) hears this,
there will be little effect on the establishment. This perspective must,
somehow, get into the easy-to-digest mass media before many people will
understand or act on it.
E. E. "Mitch" Mitchamore
www.hillcountrynatives.biz
From: John Schinnerer
To: permaculture
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program
Aloha,
> Just wondering - are mass media reports about Mad Cow disease, Avian
> Flu, or global warming any different from reports about weapons of
> mass destruction in Iraq? How can the average person discern what
> threats to society at large are real enough to warrant imposition of
> controls on individuals, businesses, or segments of society?
I think what's important here is to recognize that the true "problems"
are not being identified, so the "solutions" proposed, whether realistic
or draconian, are not likely to work anyhow. They are a distraction
regardless of if they're intentional misinformation or hysteria or very
real.
What are the real *causes* of mad cow risk increase, what really
increases the risk of avian flu among domestic poultry, etc. etc.?
Could it have something to do with how we house, raise, feed, slaughter
etc. these animals using mass-monoculture/industrial models (for just
one example)?
Permaculture teaches us to look at larger systems; to look at
connections and relations; to not be blinded by a single and/or overly
simplistic view of "problems" and "solutions."
hi ho,
John S.
John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
Heather , 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Jill, 02/28/2006
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/28/2006
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
John Schinnerer, 02/28/2006
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/28/2006
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
Loren Davidson, 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Forest Garden, 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, E. E. Mitchamore Jr, 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, John Schinnerer, 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, E. E. Mitchamore Jr, 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Martin Naylor, 02/28/2006
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
Loren Davidson, 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, John Schinnerer, 02/28/2006
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Loren Davidson, 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Scott Vlaun, 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/28/2006
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
John Schinnerer, 02/28/2006
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Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program,
Heather , 02/28/2006
- Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/28/2006
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