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["Eisenhauer" <eisenhauerdesign@earthlink.net>]

Howdy,

Sounds as though accountability is arriving which always means work and
money spent to reach compliance. I am wondering who is going to get an
affordable package of software and tagging apparatus together for the
small farmer that will diminish complexity by providing a simple road
map to follow for compliance. I ask because I think I will need just
such a tool soon. I would hope that this "tool" would also facilitate
the evaluation of breeding programs so as to better manage improvements/
disappointments and be able to present to others what has been achieved
for the purpose of sharing/selling a known entity.  Perhaps we need to
see this as the facsimile of content labeling.

Steven




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[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of John
Schinnerer
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:56 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] National Animal ID program

Aloha,

Heather, can you tell us the name of the 'microchip guy' you spoke with?
Perhaps that will help people sort this out without needing to resort to

personal attacks on list members.

Of course there is someone, or maybe a few someones, somewhere, who 
first came up with the idea of microchip implants and/or RFID (radio 
frequency ID) tags.
And it would not surprise me if they did not agree at all with what 
other people running large corporations want to do with that technology.

Look at the scientists who contributed to atomic fusion that were not at

all happy about that technology being used for making bombs, for just 
one small example.

cheers,
John S.

> Why did you post this total BS, Heather? How on Earth could you make
up a story like this.
> I X posted this to a serious farming list and the entirety of it was
completely refuted.
> Might be a good idea to do proper research before posting unfounded
rumors to this list.
> 
> Here's the reply I got, in case you or anyone else is interested:
> 
> "First, I must say that the post you just submitted appears to be
total BS.
> 
> There is no "guy that invented the micro chip idea"  there are two
huge corporations that are working on the technology.
> 
> Second, it is more than a registry program for beef and poultry.  Read
the rule!  It is for all livestock, no matter how 
> many or how few or what species.  No matter if corporate, small farm
or homestead.
> 
> Pets do not apply under the NAIS ruling.  I have never even hear a
rumor to that effect.  Don't know where your friend 
> got the idea that parakeets will get a microchip.  On that note, dogs
and cats get them everyday, for tracking and ID 
> purposes.  Just not under the NAIS ruling...
> 
> Thirdly, microchips are not the method of tagging all animals.  Some
get microchips, some get retinal scans, some are 
> DNA identified, some get ear tags, etc.  It is dependant on what is
deemed the best method for each species.  The NAIS 
> website actually has a subsite that lists the protocol for each
individual species.
> 
> Your friend Heather says this microchip inventor is organic friendly,
I find it hard to believe that anyone this 
> closely linked to NAIS could give a hoot about organics.
> 
> Yes, fear and paranoia about avian influenza are helping sell NAIS to
the public.
> 
> As for hysteria, this NAIS is serious business.  I think your friend
Heather and/or her source of information is a hoax 
> or a wing nut."
> 
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