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  • From: "Kirby Fry" <peace@totalaccess.net>
  • To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world
  • Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:06:32 -0600

Hola Georg,

>> and enlightenment isn't cheaply obtained.... <<

You're telling me. If pain makes us grow, I want to know where the cut off
line is between spiritual growth and becoming a totally messed up
individual. I can't tell if my wife leaving me and my dad dying last year
have brought me closer to enlightenment or insanity.

I like the old adage, "Chop wood carry water... find enlightenment... chop
wood carry water."

I just hope that by the time enlightenment comes around we're not too old
to, "chop wood carry water."

>> i think the biggest hurdle is energy/power addiction, as eloquently
stated by mish. <<

Yeah, I really enjoyed her posts. Energy is an enabling component in our
world that allows us to play out our mind's visions and fantasies. Too much
available energy has blown the lid off of proper scale, allowing us to
magnify our desires beyond our brains capacity for the understanding of
consequence. Gluttony and avarice to the nth degree.

Concepts like "mouton-top removal" would be unfathomable without our robust
energy economy

But rather than going back we have to go forward, through and beyond these
growing pains. Masanobu Fukuoka in his third book, "The Road Back to
Nature," laments and celebrates that Japanese youth, with all of their Zen
and Buddhist heritage would rather pursue the glitzy western lifestyle than
remain traditionalists. While much of America's youth have, "been there
done that," and are starting to discard, to a larger degree than the East
anyway, the materialistic values held up by corporate and middle America.

If we can just hold out a little while longer.


Kirby Fry

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