permaculture

[Mark Ludwig <mpludwig@facstaff.wisc.edu>]

At 05:26 PM 12/9/02 +0100, you wrote:
> hi mark n' bob:
>
> let me jump in here, and try myself on the connection of reproductive work
> and pc, as i understand it:
>
> >    Obviously "reproductive work" is important and should be better
> >...
> > that over time (unions would do these folks a world of good).  How this
> > relates to PC except tangentially is missing me.
>
> > this distinction you are making, I guess I don't understand it very
> > well.  Is it just that the nature of child rearing is different than the
> > nature of widget manufacture?  How does such a distinction really help
> > anybody?
>
> if we stay with reproductive work rather than productive work, we have zero
> growth and economic/environmental (maybe not social) sustainability right
> away. when big bill says "sitting on our doorsteps, all we need to lead a
> good life is before our eyes" (or sum such) - this is about reproductive
> work. in its core pc is about subsistence - and subsistence is mainly
> reproductive work - watching the things grow, maybe helping them with it a
> bit, and using them up, and pooing back into the cycle - small life, nothing
> special, no big projects, just getting by. doing the essentials to keep your
> clan fed and housed, and have as much free fun as you can get with your
> spouse, friends and neighbours. all the rest is more or less destructive.

Well thats a bit more clear, thank you georg.  Isn't there a little need 
for some surplus, at least to bank for a bad year?  I guess I don't see all 
the rest being destructive per se, perhaps questionable as to ones need for 
such.

> the big project left for us is: how to get there from where we are now?
>
> georg

Ya! Bingo!  We compete with a very slick and glitzy critter, best not to 
underestimate it's charm.
M
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