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- From: Misha Gale-Sinex <mgs2369@attbi.com>
- To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society
- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 16:22:43 -0800
Yo, Kirb and all--
Sorry for the delay in responding. I'm trying to get a Web site beta version launched by the end of the week, and frankly, all I feel like doing is outdoor chores and painting banana slug portraits. :^)
The most sane policies would act immediately to stop excavating
below-ground carbon and seek alternatives--like the nearly limitless flows
of photon, kinetic (wind and surf), and other energies. And would address
from a cultural standpoint the hurry-sickness.
It ain't gonna happen.
What do you think our take should be on this? I'm inclined to jump on the
tree planting band wagon. I'd like to find some paying work rebuilding
forests and restoring degraded lands - does it matter who pays for it and
why? Yes, of course...
The work I did on climate change policy with Redefining Progress led me to believe strongly in an immediately applied transitional strategy of a user-pays approach to carbon. That is, those who use the atmosphere as their sewer (which is all of us who burn fossil fuels) pay a per-ton carbon tax toward mitigation and transition.
This would replace the current practice of concentrating the profits and socializing the costs (wars, environmental destruction, economic violence, health problems). For carbon spewage is also a social/environmental justice issue. Those who spew the most correspondingly have the most wealth. Those who have least wealth and use the least fossil fuel energy are most likely to suffer from things like rising sea level rates, increasing severe weather, etc., just as they already pay the most in terms of externalized costs of the fossil fuel energy system (health problems, urban blight, and on and on and on).
I refer you all to the RP Fair and Low-Cost Climate Protection program (no longer in existence) publications from the fall of 2001 and earlier:
http://www.rprogress.org/programs/climatechange/publications.html
See also the information on green taxes in general.
For an example of why I say "It ain't gonna happen," see my other message, entitled "Fossil fuel addiction."
Paige Brown authored a lot of the FLCCP papers; she's now with the San Francisco office of the Corporation for Enterprise Development. http://www.cfed.org
Cliff Cobb wrote a great study of the externalized costs of private automobile ownership. I'll dig around for that one.
Re: Claude's observation--"If we get money to green up the earth in exchange for "them" getting a little greenwashing, is that so wrong ?"
You bet my voluptuous ass it's wrong. Corporate PR flacks are engaged in a multi-million-dollar campaign of disinformation designed to thwart understanding and action on fossil fuel use and human induced climate change. They confuse people to protect the influence of the oilygarchy. They lull people into stupidity and strive to quash enlightened action.
"Greenwashing" isn't "little," on this or any other issue. It represents major, studied, strategically and tactically well-planned, well-funded co-optations of grass-roots communication to further corporate interests. Corporations know what's going on. But what they care about is a bunch of economic abstractions (like next quarter's profits or market share or product positioning) in the short term.
There's also a time element. Corporations are entities chartered to have the legal status of persons, with immortality attached (since corporate charters are no longer sunsetted). That legal fiction ensures that large corporations' goals will by definition be at odds with those of us mortals. Especially in a capitalist system, whose rewards (and powers) accrue over time through the miracle of the algorithm known as compounding.
I've been a professional PR person. I can't summarize quickly what being a PR professional means in terms of cynical manipulation and hollow souledness. Except to say the point is to spin. If one happens to have a soul, the best one can do is spin on behalf of something one believes in.
Claude, my Rx for you (offered respectfully) is that you read a couple books by the folks at /PR Watch/. Start with /Trust Us, We're Experts/. http://www.prwatch.org
Greening Earth is funded by a large consortium of FOSSIL FUEL corporations that actively lobby against any challenges to or movement away from a fossil fuel economy. They exist to thwart evolving awareness of ecological science and to continue the 20th century's engineering of consciousness around fossil fuels.
What's called for is a breaking of this nation's key addictions: to fossil fuel and other highly concentrated energy forms (like oil/coal/gas, sugar, caffeine, explosives), to the zoomy rammy lifestyle to which we have become accustomed, and to the bipolar cranky homocidal skygod who holds it all up.
Back to Kirby's question. Kirby, in our household, we've taken a two-fold approach.
First, to slash our fossil fuel use. I'm still putting the figures together on that for the past three years, but will be glad to share them through a Web page; we hope to have it up in a month or so.
Second, to assess and reduce our CO2 emissions and engineer our own
absorption.
As for finding paying work planting trees, I don't know what to say to that, though I respect the yearning. My own personal philosophy is do the work, and the money may or may not follow. But in my experience, at the point where I start trying to turn my passions and paths into a cash-cow, there is danger of corruption of the path and myself.
What I'd do is, just do it. Plant trees. Feed the soil. Scale back. The rest will follow. Nobody ever said right livelihood would have a salary attached.
As for sequestration, see my other message ("Fossil fuel addiction").
"You take the King's shilling, and you become the King's man."
Word.
I seldom let who is doing right or paying for it bother me any more. People doing the right stuff for whatever reason are OK with me
Translated into Latin, that would be the motto of the ag college at that damn comfy little enclave, Harvard-on-Mendota (UW-Madison). At least in my nearly-fifteen-year experience of it.
And those pear-shaped, cream-licking lapcats just hired a biotechnologist as the director of the sustainable ag center, you all know?
Bob wrote:
they clean, or pay someone to clean, up after themselves.
My husband and I--pandrogynes both--were talking about this while cleaning the house for our Thanks-giving party. Think of our disdain, as a culture, for janitors, trash-haulers, bedpan-emptiers, sewage workers, mothers, housekeepers, pigeons, gulls, crows, flies, cockroaches....
Being appropriately powerful/Masculine comes to mean, precisely, making a mess in all directions, then zooming away when it threatens to dirty one's own wing-tips or $200 Nikes. Think of those big manly stacks spewing clouds of black from locomotives, factories, etc. That's progress, my boy! Now let's catch the train back to Long Island.
We cannot simply accept money for repair work in lieu of doing it right in the first place.
Amen, righteous babe brother. Testify.
Thanks for listening.
love
mish
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Re: [permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction
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Re: [permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction,
georg parlow, 12/06/2002
- RE: [permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction, jamie, 12/06/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Kirby Fry, 12/03/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society, Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 12/03/2002
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[permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?,
Claude Genest, 12/03/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?,
Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 12/03/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?, Mark, 12/04/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?,
Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 12/03/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Mark, 12/03/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
John Schinnerer, 12/04/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society, Claude Genest, 12/04/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
John Schinnerer, 12/04/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Misha Gale-Sinex, 12/05/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Kirby Fry, 12/06/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society, Misha Gale-Sinex, 12/10/2002
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[permaculture] Taking $ from evil doers, fossil fuel,
Mark, 12/06/2002
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[permaculture] Re:The American view of the world,
Bob Howard, 12/06/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world,
Mark Ludwig, 12/07/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world,
Bob Howard, 12/07/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world, Mark Ludwig, 12/08/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world, georg parlow, 12/09/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world, Mark Ludwig, 12/09/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world, Bob Howard, 12/10/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world,
Bob Howard, 12/07/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world,
Mark Ludwig, 12/07/2002
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[permaculture] Re:The American view of the world,
Bob Howard, 12/06/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Kirby Fry, 12/06/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction,
georg parlow, 12/06/2002
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