permaculture

[johnny gregory <johnnyg8@bellsouth.net>]

Thanks, Treesa and Lawrence for your insights into Paulownias. I have many
poplars in my forest- I don't know whether or not they're 'tulip' poplars. I
guess I can get a book and go out into the woods and see.

  Would you permaculture experts and enthusiasts think these big tall trees
about 30' apart would be of any help amidst about 5-10 acres of vegetable
and herb and flower crops? Would some shade help with moisture containment
or am I 'barking up the wrong tree'? Sounds feasible to me (intercropping)
although I've never seen it done. We could always prune any trees to get a
certain amount of shading it seems.

Your friend,

Johnny Gregory
Greensboro, NC

> 
> Message: 2
> From: "Treesa Jane Rogerson" <treemail@cruzio.com>
> To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:25:05 -0800
> Subject: [permaculture] paulownia
> Reply-To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> 
> Just remember how invasive those quickie Paulownias are!!!  Not to mention
> the dense surface roots for interplanting.  Ever considered the eastern US
> native Tulip Tree- Liriodendron tulipifera?  Gets so so tall, beautiful tall
> and straight columnar, 60-80 feet, Fast, good water holder.  Good shade
> tree.  Just keep out of high wind sector if possible.
> 
> YOU MAKE ME MISS MY FIRST HOME (Western NC)!  I'm going outside now!
> 
> Treesa Rogerson, M.A.
> 
> Lands Alive : Ecology By Design
> 
> treemail@yahoo.com

> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 16:39:20 -0800
> From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
> Organization: http://market-farming.com  --  Venaura Farm
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] paulownia
> Reply-To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> 
> Treesa Jane Rogerson wrote:
>> Just remember how invasive those quickie Paulownias are!!!  Not to mention
> 
> Paulownia is an excellent cash crop, along with white oak, cherry, walnut
> and pecan. It is highly prized in Japan and in the US. Paulownia poaching is
> common on public lands, sometimes private.
> 
> A good way to recycle and purify sewage sludge and effluent is to apply them
> to 
> groves of timber bamboo and Paulownia, low THC hemp, kenaf, cotton and other
> cash crops. Mike "Sludgeman" Elvin will know much detail about this with 
> ideas
> for innovative solutions. His convos with L "Manure Baron" L have been
> enlightening and productive. The problem with utilization/disposal/recycling
> of 
> livestock manure from factory meat farms could be relieved by utilization of
> it 
> on cash food and nonfood crops on a large scale.
> 
>> the dense surface roots for interplanting.  Ever considered the eastern US
>> native Tulip Tree- Liriodendron tulipifera?  Gets so so tall, beautiful 
>> tall
>> and straight columnar, 60-80 feet, Fast, good water holder.  Good shade
>> tree.  Just keep out of high wind sector if possible.
> 
> Does fine in the high winds on exposed (to NorthWest) hilltop location in
> the Central Piedmont, NC. This is the best, IMO, nectar source for bees.
> TP honey is a rare and special delight. Be sure TP roots have plenty of room
> for
> expansion in loose rich dirt with plenty of water. They can get really huge 
> in
> the right growing location.
> 
> LL