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  • From: Mark <mpludwig@facstaff.wisc.edu>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs
  • Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:31:09 -0600

At 10:42 AM 11/11/02 -0700, you wrote:

A different question, but I'd like to know how much rainfall those poplars
need, esp if the water table is too low to help.

paul & barb - on the continental divide

These are trees best suited to medium to semi wet soils. I don't think they would be happy in really dry soils.
m

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On 11/11/2002 at 12:43 PM Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:

>johnny gregory wrote:
>> Thanks, Treesa and Lawrence for your insights into Paulownias. I have
>many
>> poplars in my forest- I don't know whether or not they're 'tulip'
>poplars. I
>> guess I can get a book and go out into the woods and see.
>
>In Piedmont NC they are Tulip Poplars.
>
>> Would you permaculture experts and enthusiasts think these big tall
>trees
>> about 30' apart would be of any help amidst about 5-10 acres of
vegetable
>
>You could Poplars 20' apart, even less and they would do well. Plant a
>windrow
>in an EW line North of growing beds that need shelter from N or NW winds
>and to
>extend Fall growing season; and use the South side of them for shade/cool
>crops
>in Summer for the same purpose. Interplant them with eleagnus (will
>provide
>extra N) and roses for wildlife cover and extra wind-protection and shade.
>I would plant them near a berm or swale for additional moisture, behind it
>if
>the terrain is a south-facing slope, in front of it if it is north facing.
>
>Poplars will be good for bees as they provide a lot of nectar in Spring.
>Very
>dark poplar honey is a rare treat.
>
>> and herb and flower crops? Would some shade help with moisture
>containment
>> or am I 'barking up the wrong tree'? Sounds feasible to me
>(intercropping)
>> although I've never seen it done. We could always prune any trees to get
>a
>> certain amount of shading it seems.
>>
>> Your friend,
>>
>> Johnny Gregory
>> Greensboro, NC
>
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