permaculture

[Mark <mpludwig@facstaff.wisc.edu>]

At 10:42 AM 11/11/02 -0700, you wrote:

> A different question, but I'd like to know how much rainfall those poplars
> need, esp if the water table is too low to help.
>
> paul & barb - on the continental divide

These are trees best suited to medium to semi wet soils.  I don't think 
they would be happy in really dry soils.
m

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> On 11/11/2002 at 12:43 PM Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
>
> >johnny gregory wrote:
> >> Thanks, Treesa and Lawrence for your insights into Paulownias. I have
> >many
> >> poplars in my forest- I don't know whether or not they're 'tulip'
> >poplars. I
> >> guess I can get a book and go out into the woods and see.
> >
> >In Piedmont NC they are Tulip Poplars.
> >
> >>   Would you permaculture experts and enthusiasts think these big tall
> >trees
> >> about 30' apart would be of any help amidst about 5-10 acres of
> vegetable
> >
> >You could Poplars 20' apart, even less and they would do well. Plant a
> >windrow
> >in an EW line North of growing beds that need shelter from N or NW winds
> >and to
> >extend Fall growing season; and use the South side of them for shade/cool
> >crops
> >in Summer for the same purpose. Interplant them with eleagnus (will
> >provide
> >extra N) and roses for wildlife cover and extra wind-protection and shade.
> >I would plant them near a berm or swale for additional moisture, behind it
> >if
> >the terrain is a south-facing slope, in front of it if it is north facing.
> >
> >Poplars will be good for bees as they provide a lot of nectar in Spring.
> >Very
> >dark poplar honey is a rare treat.
> >
> >> and herb and flower crops? Would some shade help with moisture
> >containment
> >> or am I 'barking up the wrong tree'? Sounds feasible to me
> >(intercropping)
> >> although I've never seen it done. We could always prune any trees to get
> >a
> >> certain amount of shading it seems.
> >>
> >> Your friend,
> >>
> >> Johnny Gregory
> >> Greensboro, NC
> >
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Mark P. Ludwig
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