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- From: "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net>
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- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Poplars allilopathic?
- Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:30:20 -0800 (PST)
Aloha,
Could your observations be due to poplars' extensive and aggressive root
systems combined with their generally thirsty nature?
This is the first indication I've ever heard that poplars have
allilopathic properties...where is this documented? PFAF doesn't mention
it...
> Beware of allelopathy with poplars....
> I saw a poplar windbreak in New Zealand, there was a farm track between
> the trees and the farmers field of sweet corn - the allelopathic impact
> of the poplars was the most dramatic visual example I've observed yet.
> Near the track germination was sparse and plants severely stunted
> (barely 18 inches high), the density and plant size gradually and
> uniformly increased with increasing distance from the trees and at 1
> and half times the hight of the poplars into the field the plants were
> dense, lush and over 6 foot high. The sunflower crop on the other side
> had exactly the same phenomena. It was interesting that the most
> stunted section was within the height of the plant horizontal section
> and plants rose in a J-curve to the 1.5xh point.
> I'd be rather cautious to use poplars in a productive cropping system
> especially vegies. Poplars are fine in grasslands and agroforestry
> systems, don't have the same allelopathic relationship with grasses and
> clovers quite like growing under them.
> Robyn
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[permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs,
johnny gregory, 11/11/2002
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GlobalCirclenet, 11/11/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs,
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- Re: [permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs, Mark, 11/12/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs,
georg parlow, 11/12/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 11/11/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs,
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Re: [permaculture] Poplars allilopathic?,
John Schinnerer, 11/24/2002
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- Re: [permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs, georg parlow, 11/26/2002
- [permaculture] Carbon and Nitrogen Accumulation, Kirby Fry, 11/26/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Poplars allilopathic?,
John Schinnerer, 11/24/2002
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[permaculture] Re: permaculture digest, Vol 1 #392 - 5 msgs,
johnny gregory, 11/11/2002
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