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["Treesa Jane Rogerson" <treemail@cruzio.com>]

'Treesa' Rogerson, M.A.

Lands Alive : Ecology By Design

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Treesa Jane Rogerson" <treemail@cruzio.com>
To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Agenda Shaping: The Society for Ecological
Restoration


> Kirby:
>
> Toby Hemenway's Gaia's Garden pp.10-13 echoes exactly your points about
what
> native really is...
>
> The speakers you mentioned are quite busy, but I will forward this message
> to quite the speaker who would do well with this subject.
>
>  Are you familiar with the Arid Lands Newsletter?
>
> I just read Marsha Hanzi's paper on Polycultures in the drylands of
Brazil.
> It is Aridlands newlsetter #48, and older one
>
> Where, recently enough, the banks required a turn to monoculture and
> commercially produced fertilizers from traditional Brazilian ways, NOW the
> bank is considering requiring polyculture planting before financing is
given
> to farmers.
>
> Turn of tides based on success of the experiment.
>
> A perfect example of well-demonstrated Pc technique that speaks a little
> different language than 'restoration,' but not really if you get semantic
> about it and call growing healthy food a restoration of health and
> abundance.  Which is all just about everyone--round upper or not,
> grasslander or forester-- is after if you think about it.
>
> Anyway, the e-newsletter can be subscribed to at the following link.
>
> majordomo@ag.arizona.edu
>
> leave subject line blank.  In body put ONLY:
>
> subscribe aridlands-nl
>
>
>
> Then you can get the editor at kwaser@ag.arizona.edu for the backissue, or
> do  a google search-- put in polycultures, with an 's'.
>
>
> 'Treesa' Rogerson, M.A.
>
> Lands Alive : Ecology By Design
>
> treemail@yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirby Fry" <peace@totalaccess.net>
> To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:10 AM
> Subject: [permaculture] Agenda Shaping: The Society for Ecological
> Restoration
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I just attended the Texas Society for Ecological Restoration's (Tex SER)
> > annual conference in Weslaco, Texas.  It was a fantastic meeting with at
> > least twenty presenters, eighty or so participants and some great field
> > trips.
> >
> > Next year the International Society for Ecological Restoration will be
> > having its meeting in Austin, Texas.  I would like to get someone like
> Scott
> > Pittman or Larry Santoyo on the list of presenters for this upcoming
> > conference.
> >
> > Where I see the SER chapters lacking information and emphasis is in
> climatic
> > stabilization, e.g. designing ecosystems for dealing with global
warming,
> > destruction of the ozone layer, preventing wildfires, continental
> > rehumidification and reversing desertification trends etc.
> >
> > The main focus of SER projects is typically targeting a time period and
> > ecosystem type from an aesthetic and biodiversity viewpoint and then
using
> > all available tools to achieve the establishment of that ecosystem such
> as,
> > round up, plowing, burning, brush clearing, species eradication,
basically
> > all of the ag tools that have been a part of the problem.
> >
> > It seems to me that genuine "restoration" more often than not falls
victim
> > to our interpretations of what we thought was once on a given site which
> is
> > inevitably biased by what we would LIKE to see on that site.
> >
> > So as a Pc designer I'm ready to drop the term "restoration" and get on
> with
> > designing ecosystems that serve not only biodiversity and our aesthetic
> > sense of what "should" be there, but also help reverse destructive
> climactic
> > and desertification trends.  What I sense needs to be emphasized is
> working
> > with the most degraded lands first - rather than knocking back woodlands
> in
> > order to install grasslands, rebuilding forests that aren't prone to
> > devastating wildfires (much needed in Arizona), and comprehensive design
> > strategies to rehumidify the continental interior and reverse warming
and
> > drying trends (at least those trends that humans have been responsible
> for).
> >
> > There is a pretty large and well funded restoration movement on the
ground
> > already hard at work that knows very little about permaculture.  I think
> we
> > have plenty of time to line up someone to speak at this upcoming
> > international conference, and yes I'm more than willing to speak, but I
> > would love to see someone with more travel experience than myself
> addressing
> > this international community.
> >
> >
> > Kirby Fry
> >
> > For the real scoop on environmental and social justice issues check out
> the
> > archives of Democracy Now!
> > http://www.webactive.com/webactive/pacifica/demnow/archive.html
> >
> >
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