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- From: Claude Jolicoeur <cjoli@gmc.ulaval.ca>
- To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Cc: cjoli@gmc.ulaval.ca
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making
- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:34:08 -0500
At 11:54 2008-02-19, you wrote:
Does anyone have any resources on types of apples to grow for great
cider making? After reading several things I am pretty much confused,
bitters, sharps, bittersharps, sweets, bittersweets........
I am trying to make some decisions on what to grow and now I don't
know. I just planted several Arkansas Blacks on a dwarving rootstock.
Oh btw, I am in Arkansas. Zone 7a-7b.
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To answer more directly to your question, I would say your best cider apples will be those that grow well and mature to their best at your place. I make excellent cider with Cortland apples, but don't try it, Cortland doesn't make good cider down South in warmer climate.
The best cider will generally come from old unfertilised standard trees, small and scabby apples, late maturing apples that contain high level of sugar (aim for a gravity of 1.060 or better). You need to think differently when you grow apples for cider.
True cider apples, bittersweets in particular, are nice and, for me, bring some welcomed diversity in aroma and taste - however, I don't find them essential for making an excellent cider. In my cold climate, the English cider apples have a hard time to mature properly. Actually, I get better results with a chance seedling that I found which is a mild bittersweet - I call it the "Douce de Charlevoix" (could be translated as Charlevoix Sweet). This is to say that if you look around you, you might find a better cider apple for your site than any of the official cider apples.
Good luck!
Claude Jolicoeur
Quebec.
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Re: [NAFEX] Two Questions
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Re: [NAFEX] Two Questions,
Chris Garriss, 02/18/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] maple (going off-topic), tanis cuff, 02/22/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] Two Questions, Claude Jolicoeur, 02/18/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] Two Questions, Parker Henry, 02/18/2008
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Re: [NAFEX] Two Questions,
JAMES ELIE, 02/18/2008
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[NAFEX] backpack sprayers,
Mark & Helen Angermayer, 02/19/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] backpack sprayers, tanis cuff, 02/19/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] backpack sprayers, Jolyn, 02/19/2008
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Re: [NAFEX] backpack sprayers,
Road's End Farm, 02/19/2008
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[NAFEX] Cider Making,
Robert Mullins, 02/19/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making, Claude Jolicoeur, 02/19/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making, dmnorton, 02/19/2008
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Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making,
Richard MURPHY, 02/21/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making, David . Maxwell, 02/22/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making, Robert C. Mullins, 02/22/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making, Erdman, James, 02/25/2008
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Re: [NAFEX] backpack sprayers,
Mark & Helen Angermayer, 02/19/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] backpack sprayers, Jolyn, 02/19/2008
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Re: [NAFEX] backpack sprayers,
tanis cuff, 02/20/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] backpack sprayers, Road's End Farm, 02/20/2008
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[NAFEX] Cider Making,
Robert Mullins, 02/19/2008
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[NAFEX] backpack sprayers,
Mark & Helen Angermayer, 02/19/2008
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Re: [NAFEX] Two Questions,
Chris Garriss, 02/18/2008
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