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  • From: "Mark & Helen Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Are GM Crops Killing Honeybees?
  • Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:16:16 -0600

Hi Michael,

You've obviously knowledgeable on this topic, and passionate. But I find
when I slip into judging others motives, I'm generally wrong.

Mark
Kansas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Nave" <>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Are GM Crops Killing Honeybees?


> When someone says that GM has been tested to the hilt,
> and that statement has no backing in fact, I'm pretty
> sure that person has no interest in education. As for
> others on the list, just research it for yourself.
> Almost every week GM products are implicated in
> another problem.
>
>
> --- "regina" wrote:
>
> > Whooooah. Careful, Michael my friend, if I were at
> > the other end of
> > that e-mail I'd think you might be straying
> > dangerously close to
> > fighting words. This could degenerate into a flame
> > war inappropriate
> > for the NAFEX forum, and the opportunity to educate
> > on the issue would
> > be lost.
> >
> > This from someone who agrees with you 100% on the
> > issue of inadequate
> > testing and all-round evilness of GM products.
> >
> > ----Original Message----
> > From: michaelnave
> > Date: Mar 29, 2007 9:03
> > To: "North American Fruit
> > Explorers"<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subj: Re: [NAFEX] Are GM Crops Killing Honeybees?
> >
> > Because each GM product is NOT scrutinized to the
> > hilt.
> >
> > GM testing always operates under unproven
> > assumptions
> > about what might or might not be problematic because
> > there is no way to test all potential impacts of GM
> > foods. So the questions is, are the testers missing
> > things? The answer is yes:
> >
> > Where is the safety testing of GM soya?
> > http://www.connectotel.com/gmfood/soyarefs.html
> >
> > GM SAFETY TESTS FLAWED
> > http://www.foe.co.
> >
> uk/resource/press_releases/gm_safety_tests_flawed_new_24112004.html
> >
> > Inadequate safety assessment of GE foods
> > http://www.psrast.org/subeqow.htm
> >
> > Genetic Biologist explains GM dangers
> > http://beehive.thisisdorset.co.uk/default.asp?
> > WCI=SiteHome&ID=5122&PageID=43996
> >
> > Could GM Foods Cause Allergies?
> >
> http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/briefings/gm_alergies.pdf
> >
> > There are HUNDREDS of articles on the interent
> > concerning the failures to test GM foods adequately.
> > That you seem to be unaware of any of them is a
> > testament to either your ignorance or your
> > dishonesty.
> > That you choose to post on topics of which you
> > appear
> > to be completely ignorant is bad enough. If you post
> > again claiming that GM foods are adequately tested,
> > I
> > will know beyond any doubt that something more than
> > ignorance is at issue.
> >
> > Not only has the testing been shoddy, but those who
> > criticize GM foods or the testing procedures are
> > likely to face retribution:
> >
> > Critic of GM organisms barred from Canada
> >
> http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/gm-food/mg18625013.600-critic-
> > of-gm-organisms-barred-from-canada.html
> >
> > You want to be fair? Here's what's fair. Quit
> > growing
> > all GM prodcuts until they have all been adequately
> > tested. It is not the public's burden to prove a GM
> > organism can harm a person, an animal or a bee, it
> > is
> > the GM grower's burden to show that there is no way
> > that GM organism can harm anyone. That has not been
> > done.
> >
> >
> > --- Anton Callaway <> wrote:
> >
> > > If we do not know what is happening, then why zero
> > > in on GM, when each "GM" product is scrutinized
> > to
> > > the hilt?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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