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- From: Lois Guyon <laguyon2@yahoo.com>
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- Subject: Re: [MSAR] FEMA
- Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:12:58 -0800 (PST)
Irv,
Our EMA seems to be a stand alone agency. I need to check and see how it
relates to other orgaizations. The head of EMA came to one of our training
sessins and said that we would need mutural aid agreements with other MSAR
units. Have you or anyone else had experience with setting these up? Are
there FEMA certifications that are helpful?
Lois
Lois Guyon
Member
LaSalle County Sheriff's MSAR
Ottawa, IL
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In referrence to the e-mail from Phillip Easley......
I'm very much aware of the destructive nature of politics when
it comes to MSAR, sheriff's departments , and the search and
rescue community in general. One thing folks would be wise to
consider is developing a method for screening potential
applicants for compatability with your other MSAR volunteers.
After it took me two years to come up with general guidelines
for an MSAR , and finally get approval to do so , I made the
mistake of recruiting a person with substantial monies to
contribute to our unit. Little did I realize the problems I was
causing.
Unfortunately this individual thought that making donations
also allowed them license to control the direction of the team
and training. We ended up in heated discussions over the breed
of horse suitable for MSAR ( this person's outside interest was
Paso Fino horses, and this breed was vigorously promoted as the
best ) . Without going into too much detail , training was
compromised when it was felt to be too difficult for the new
intended MSAR mounts. Eventually our team lost it's credability
and degenerated into a " pony club " .
Since I have recently moved to northern New England from the
South, I've been invited to found another MSAR team in the
Bangor Maine area. The agency that I had been discussing this
with seemed to be an ideal agency, with their own helicopters,
fixed wing aircraft, and numerous other " toys " that any SAR
team could possibly want. However, another of the MSAR members
that make postings on this site did a little checking and felt
that something didn't look quite right . ( Thanks Una !! )
Two nights ago this agency that asked me to form a mounted team
made the evening news in a very negative way. MASAR in Maine
seems to be fairly upset with these people. So thanks to the
folks on this site, I was able to stay out of another sticky
situation.
I guess what I'm trying to say is be cautious about what
you do and who you recruit. It's difficult enough dealing with
the politics of the non - horse people without creating some of
your own. And I'm still looking for people to form an MSAR team
in this area, or possibly join anyone looking to recruit
newcomers. Pine Tree MSAR team still has a listing on the 'Net ,
but is now defunct.
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Lois Guyon, 12/05/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Lois Guyon, 12/05/2005
- Re: [MSAR] Mutual Aid, irvin lichtenstein, 12/06/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Una Smith, 12/06/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Jorene Downs, 12/06/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
irvin lichtenstein, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Jeff Ezell, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
irvin lichtenstein, 12/07/2005
- [MSAR] LED flares / FEMA, Jorene Downs, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
irvin lichtenstein, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Jeff Ezell, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
irvin lichtenstein, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Tm' Fi, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Jorene Downs, 12/07/2005
- Re: [MSAR] FEMA, Tm' Fi, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Jorene Downs, 12/07/2005
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Re: [MSAR] FEMA,
Jorene Downs, 12/06/2005
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