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- From: Road's End Farm <organic87 AT frontiernet.net>
- To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training
- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:39:47 -0500
On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:29 PM, KAKerby AT aol.com wrote: But recent findings amongst wild elk in the Rockies indicates that grain-fed versus not-grain-fed doesn't matter. Well, all that would indicate is that it doesn't matter with elk; or, at least, that non-grain-fed elk can carry it. Wouldn't it have been easier to do the studies on grass-fed cattle than on elk? Or are there such studies, and they do show that grass-fed cattle are at least less likely to carry pathogenic strains than grain-fed cattle, but the elk study better suited the presenter? I don't think there's any disagreement that a wide range of creatures can get pathogenic E Coli -- in fact, if only feedlot cattle got it, there wouldn't be any danger for humans. The question is, what practice significantly encourages the production of the pathogens? Is it growing produce in fields open to wildlife? Or is it raising cattle in feedlots? If the latter practice contributes more to the problem than the former, it seems to me entirely unreasonable to try to make everyone grow produce in sterile conditions, while not shutting down the feedlots. (I'm not holding my breath on this one. Uncracked eggs used to be perfectly safe to eat raw. When chronic salmonella oviduct infections started making this untrue, the problem originated in large confined chicken operations. Instead of closing those down to protect not-yet-infected operations as well as the general public, which would have made eggs slightly more expensive and massively annoyed a small number of very large producers, we all got told to hardboil our eggs.) -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 5 mostly Fresh-market organic produce, small scale |
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Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training
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- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, William H Shoemaker, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Garth & Kim Travis, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Road's End Farm, 03/02/2010
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Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training,
KAKerby, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Garth & Kim Travis, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, David Inglis, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Ryan Platte, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Road's End Farm, 03/03/2010
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Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training,
KAKerby, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Garth & Kim Travis, 03/02/2010
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Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training,
Road's End Farm, 03/03/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, maury sheets, 03/03/2010
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Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training,
Roots Farm & Karen Sutherland, 03/04/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, William H Shoemaker, 03/04/2010
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Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training,
KAKerby, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Ryan Platte, 03/02/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, KAKerby, 03/02/2010
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Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training,
KAKerby, 03/03/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Road's End Farm, 03/03/2010
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Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training,
SaladG, 03/03/2010
- Re: [Market-farming] manures/GAP training, Road's End Farm, 03/03/2010
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