Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[su do <speakingbeareturns@yahoo.com>]

My ancestors hunted for small game, fish, and
gardening as well. It depends on your location as a
tribe, how you lived. Some tribes traveled with the
seasons and others were stationary. I am talking of my
history (Indian) maternal side, German/Irish on
paternal side.
--- TradingPostPaul <tradingpost@riseup.net> wrote:

> 
> The masses have to learn to feed themselves, but
> won't for the most part. I
> do my part where I am. I've proved to myself it can
> be done, and on very
> little land without much investment, but they can't
> be forced against their
> will. Actually native americans - probably upwards
> of ten million - did
> have domesticated stock in some places, but relied
> more on gardening and
> gathering to have food year round, and did extensive
> long distance trading.
> The official version you rely on has nothing to do
> with the real history. 
> 
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
> 
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> 
> On 10/14/2007 at 5:46 PM su do wrote:
> 
> >I think the high volume to feed the masses is the
> real
> >problem. The Indian did not raise cattle, they
> hunted
> >the free roaming herds. Well we know the rest of
> >history!
> >--- TradingPostPaul <tradingpost@riseup.net> wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> Basically agree, livestock have a place. I'm not
> >> vegetarian but have cut my
> >> beef consumption way back in my later years,
> partly
> >> for health and partly
> >> for other reasons. Yes, livestock do fertilize
> the
> >> land. I recycle manure
> >> from nearby and value it highly. It's the factory
> >> farms and monster
> >> feedlots, esp of the midwest breadbasket, that
> >> consume so much corn and
> >> grain production, and their manure simply goes to
> >> waste and pollutes our
> >> waterways instead of fertilizing cropland. It's
> way
> >> over the top. We don't
> >> need to eat so much meat. And we need that
> >> productive farmland to be
> >> producing wholesome food to eat directly, and we
> >> need to be using our
> >> freshwater more efficiently. So if livestock was
> >> raised only in areas
> >> suitable only for pasture, without grain diets,
> we'd
> >> raise a lot less beef
> >> and farm far more efficiently and sustainably,
> and
> >> be better off for it.
> >> This is the middle ground that seems sensible to
> me.
> >> 
> 
> 
> 
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