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  • From: "art corbit" <art_c@cox.net>
  • To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] commune way of living
  • Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:06:36 -0500

Hi Diane,

That is my point exactly. The kind of people you describe will be our worst
enemies. They have been deceived into believing the good times will last
forever and they feel no need to do any more work than they must. Even a lot
of people that know hard times are coming are putting off doing anything to
prepare for it. They think they will have time but they won't. If you don't
have a full year of food stashed back right now and a means of replacing it
that you alone control you are in a very dangerous position. Pure water for
drinking and cooking is also something we should be working on. Distilled
water could very easily be the only answer. Should it come to a point where
millions starve to death their dead bodies would contaminate this earth to a
point the surface water would be deadly. Even most drilled water wells would
become contaminated beyond safe use.

Ask yourself this question. How many people do you know right now that could
survive without any outside help? I'm talking at this moment, not down the
road a couple of years. Right now we should be working on our soil building
it up and putting together the things we need to tend it. If you don't have
land to live on that belongs to you then buy you an acre or so out of town
and get to work on it. It doesn't matter how far the land is from town
because if you ever need it to survive you won't be going into town anyway.
Now is the time to act, not 6 months from now.

Art in Arkansas


----- Original Message -----
From: "D Knoll" <homeschool@iontreasures.com>
To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing"
<livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] commune way of living


> In the history of civilizations, given the choice of starving or raiding
> someone else's supplies, humans choose raiding.
>
> I would like to have more prepared neighbors, but my neighbors are married
> to their suburban dream. They think we are crazy to grow food instead of
> grass, they call county code enforcement for rain barrels and compost
piles
> (even though these are not against code compliance), none of the adult
males
> have a screwdriver between them, or even know how to work one. They have
no
> interest in being self-sufficient, but if things get tough, I have no
doubt
> they'll be knocking down our door (although with what, I don't know, maybe
> they'll use their lawnmowers) wanting their bread from the little red hen
> that did ALL the work preparing it. And they don't want any new
information.
> We are the big joke of the neighborhood (unless someone needs help from my
> husband).
>
> So these are not good, safe people to be in a community with, I would
> imagine it is like this in many suburban areas, where people live together
> in a rather random manner. These are the most dangerous people we may have
> to contend with, ignorant and unprepared, and they don't WANT to be
> prepared.
>
> But one of them did give my husband a huge bottle of Jim Beam for fixing
his
> screen door handle, we figure that will be a nice bit of barter down the
> road!
>
>
> Diane
>
> Zone 9A, a few miles east of the Gulf of Mexico
> Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] commune way of living
>
>
> > Laura,
> >
> > Take another look around you. Getting away from the "community" is the
> > wisest thing a family could do. Those people we now call our friends and
> > neighbors could very easily turn on us and become our worst ennemies.
What
> > would happen if you were the only one in a community that had food and
> > water? You and your family would probably be killed and your food and
> water
> > carried off by your friends and neighbors.
> >
> > During what they call "The great depression" in the 1930's things got
> pretty
> > bad but if the same thing should happen now you can't even imagine what
> our
> > world would become. Most people don't believe this could happen again
but
> > they are dead wrong. In fact it could happen a lot easier now and be
many
> > times worse a lot quicker.
> >
> > It is said that in the LA Basin in California there is only a 3 days
> supply
> > of most food items at any one time. The rest is on trucks headed in that
> > direction. A lot of the Northeast is no doubt in the same shape. What
> would
> > happen if those trucks stopped and the food supply ran out in these
areas?
> > If your kids were hungry and you knew there was food down the street for
> the
> > taking would you sit and watch your kids starve to death? No you
wouldn't
> > and I wouldn't either and most important your friends and neighbors
won't
> > either.
> >
> > While we are figuring ways to grow our food and things along this line
we
> > must also be figuring ways to conseal what we have in ways that no one
> will
> > know we have it. A consealed root cellar stocked full of food could
very
> > easily mean being able to survive long enough to see the worst pass. I
> > wouldn't want to be forced to kill to keep what I had but that is
exactly
> > what it would come down to if people knew you still had food.
> >
> > People have no idea what we are all facing in the near future. Now is
the
> > time to prepare for it, not after you can see it coming.
> >
> > Art in Arkansas
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Laura McKenzie" <laurabrownmckenzie@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing"
> > <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] commune way of living
> >
> >
> > > I think some of us are interested in the topic because we don't
live
> > > near anyone else who shares our urgency and/or love of growing food.
> The
> > > cracker barrel is no longer there to sit around and share experiences,
> > > hints, helps, ideas over. It gets lonely out here by ourselves and
the
> > > internet, as wonderful as it can sometimes be, doesn't provide the
human
> > > contact.
> > >
> > > At least that's my experience. Lucky if you if aren't as isolated
as
> I
> > > am! I'm a little tired of being the only "organic, greenie nut" for
> miles
> > > upon miles around : )
> > >
> > > Laura
> > > ><>`` ><>`` ><>`` ><>`` ><>`` ><>`` ><>``
> > > Laura's Homeschooling, Garden, and Genealogy Site
> > > is found here: http://home.att.net/~ekyorigins
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> > >
> > >
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